Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

JM, you are quickly cutting off the hand that could feed you. I dare say the churches you can evangelize in will dimish quickly..... but carry on for all the 40 or so new members who will read your posts here.

Great Post BOOM..........I daresay that I know of one that he will not be coming to............

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I would have to wonder how they expect to keep their org from going the way they believe the UPC did if they won't be in control for more than a year?

It just doesn't make sense.

Again, just from what I have read, I think the Original 6 are expecting this to be a "conservative" club, and are making references mandatory. And what I understand is that a position could feasibly be held up to 7 years before being removed from the position. It is on a 1 person per year change in the Executive Committee. Once voted out, the person cannot hold any position for 1 year.


I am in no way the spokes person for WWPF. I have just been reading some of the answers given to men elsewhere online, and am sharing what I know. My personal opinion is that the WWPF would be between the UPCI and the AMF in conservative terms. I am basically watching to see what happens with them. I am independant, and would not join if they let me. Not because I think they are devils. I just ain't interested.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Again, just from what I have read, I think the Original 6 are expecting this to be a "conservative" club, and are making references mandatory. And what I understand is that a position could feasibly be held up to 7 years before being removed from the position. It is on a 1 person per year change in the Executive Committee. Once voted out, the person cannot hold any position for 1 year.


I am in no way the spokes person for WWPF. I have just been reading some of the answers given to men elsewhere online, and am sharing what I know. My personal opinion is that the WWPF would be between the UPCI and the AMF in conservative terms. I am basically watching to see what happens with them. I am independant, and would not join if they let me. Not because I think they are devils. I just ain't interested.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Who gets to vote? All preachers that sign up, or just pastors?

2. Can a committee executive return one year after their year to be off? If this is the case, the original committee can continue to control the new group for several years until they retire or die!

I would say a better plan is to vote a new executive board member each year for a 7 year term. When their 7 years are up, they're done!

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

P.E. ??????..............

made A in PE thank you.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

Man I hate I missed seeing you there.......IMHO this is the dumbest statement you could ever make and proof that you do not know the men who headed this meeting up.........really JM, Think man.........Think...........

LOL! It does help if a person does a little of that.

[bishoph]

The structure of WPF is as follows:

The EC (Executive Council) 6: The chairmen (currently Bro. J Godair) will serve for two years after which they will leave the EC. (The original 6 will serve as honorary members for life but will have no voting power as honorary members)

To replace the EC members, nominations will be taken, and the top three names will be placed in the proverbial hat and one will be chosen. Any EC member must "sit out" for two years before they would be eligible to be nominated again. The EC votes within itself as to who the chairman will be.

On the GC (General Council) 49: Every 2 years 7 members vacate and 7 new members are elected. The vacating GC member must "sit out" two years before they can be nominated again.

To replace those 7, nominations will be taken from the floor, and the top seven names will replace the outgoing members. In the event of a tie for seventh place, those names who tied will be placed in the "hat" and one chosen.

This is the initial framework, however, all members (not just pastors) have the right to present resolutions, (and vote) which if passed can alter any portion of the bylaws and/or Articles of Faith.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by bishoph

The structure of WPF is as follows:

The EC (Executive Council) 6: The chairmen (currently Bro. J Godair) will serve for two years after which they will leave the EC. (The original 6 will serve as honorary members for life but will have no voting power as honorary members)

To replace the EC members, nominations will be taken, and the top three names will be placed in the proverbial hat and one will be chosen. Any EC member must "sit out" for two years before they would be eligible to be nominated again. The EC votes within itself as to who the chairman will be.

On the GC (General Council) 49: Every 2 years 7 members vacate and 7 new members are elected. The vacating GC member must "sit out" two years before they can be nominated again.

To replace those 7, nominations will be taken from the floor, and the top seven names will replace the outgoing members. In the event of a tie for seventh place, those names who tied will be placed in the "hat" and one chosen.

This is the initial framework, however, all members (not just pastors) have the right to present resolutions, (and vote) which if passed can alter any portion of the bylaws and/or Articles of Faith.

Any idea of how long Resolution #4 would have lasted?
(I know the answer)

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Hey OP_Carl, thanks for the "Ammendment" to that post. Your graciousness is an example to all of us who would otherwise be brawling about on this board.



In the "great spirit" of OP_Carl's action in "taking the high road" I too will attempt to restrain my name-calling and use adjectives instead of nouns.

Haha. I blame my asphyxiation for my lapse of judgment. He must have really been goaltending his post to catch that like he did, which made it even funnier for me.

Don't be afraid to also use adverbs, grasshopper.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by bishoph

The structure of WPF is as follows:

The EC (Executive Council) 6: The chairmen (currently Bro. J Godair) will serve for two years after which they will leave the EC. (The original 6 will serve as honorary members for life but will have no voting power as honorary members)

To replace the EC members, nominations will be taken, and the top three names will be placed in the proverbial hat and one will be chosen. Any EC member must "sit out" for two years before they would be eligible to be nominated again. The EC votes within itself as to who the chairman will be.

On the GC (General Council) 49: Every 2 years 7 members vacate and 7 new members are elected. The vacating GC member must "sit out" two years before they can be nominated again.

To replace those 7, nominations will be taken from the floor, and the top seven names will replace the outgoing members. In the event of a tie for seventh place, those names who tied will be placed in the "hat" and one chosen.

This is the initial framework, however, all members (not just pastors) have the right to present resolutions, (and vote) which if passed can alter any portion of the bylaws and/or Articles of Faith.

Thank you for the update here. I was going off of old info prior to the meeting.

[Dan'D]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I don't doubt that, WH, my question is "Why now"?

I mean, it's obvious that these men have been concerned about the direction the UPC has taken, why did they choose to leave now? Over the advertising on TV issue, when it's obvious that many in the UPC have been advertising or broadcasting on TV for quite a while?

And why not now?

This last resolution was just the straw that broke the camels back .

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