McCain Is the Only Hope of the GOP & America

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I'm a "facist"? Your ignorance is showing. It's the big government liberals who are closer to their facist's forefathers.

You stated that you believed that doctors who perform abortions and women who procure them should be penalized for murder as the Bible would require. That means execution.

Would you support the execution of homosexuals and others too? Your statement implies that you would.

And for the record...I called Dominionists dedicated to imposing right wing religious law on our country facists...not you personally.

BTW, I believe the world will be won from the bottom up and not by legislation. I don't believe that American is or was a Christian nation. But I do believe that Scripture demands that we ascribe to God what is rightfully His and to do less is sin. We're to think His thoughts after Him and bring ALL thoughts captive.

We are strangers and pilgrims down here. We're not called to take over and rule by religious law.

The truth be known all political theory has religious underpinnings. Even secularism. The key is to have a theory(religion) that is not arbitrary, inconsistent, and can provide the preconditions for understanding what is reality, what is right, and how do I know what I know. On your worldview you can't answer these questions with being arbitrary and inconsistent.

I agree somewhat. Political philosophies will always serve as vehicles to express values deeply rooted in religious convictions.

Scripture shows that all areas of society have their place and boundries and they are not to overlap. Civil government in the USA has overlapped the family, church, and the individual. It is our messiah and savior.

Scripture is rather interesting on the issue. I've spoken to a Rabbi about Israel, which is socialist by the way, and how their rabbis pushed for national health care based on Torah principles. The Law of Moses requires that if anyone be in need the nation isn't to withdraw their hand from them. The entire nation is called upon to assist those in need. There are even laws requiring land owners to allow the poor, fatherless, widows, and the needy to glean their crops. These laws are essentially foundational early distributist thought as found in Scripture. The principle at work was that all shared a burden for eachother in the society. In ancient Israel a land owner who refused to allow the poor to glean from their crop was to be called into the gates before the magiestrate. However, as we see in the book of Amos and others land owners often made deals with magistrates and denied what God calls, "the right of the poor". God even prounounced strong judgment against the nation for doing this.

Many who believe in more progressive politics pull from the OT sense of social justice and equity in their political worldview. The principles underlining things such and gleaning and the poor tithe teach us that the basic necessities of survival were to be shared by the nation...not horded by the wealthy.