JEWS! - Page 8

mfblume · #1 02-03-2008, 03:19 PM

And Rev, you never answered Revers question either.

Was Jesus right or not? If so, explain what he said. (whew)

Rev · #2 02-03-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Rev, was Jesus right or not? If so, explain what he said. (whew)

"Everyone knows they look for Messiah still."

mfblume · #3 02-03-2008, 03:21 PM

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"Everyone knows they look for Messiah still."

Why do you avoid Christ's words? Wow. lol. Always games.

Rev · #4 02-03-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Why do you avoid Christ's words? Wow. lol. Always games.

I am not interested in yours and French's argument. I'm sure he will more than answer your questions. Don't know or care what you had posted previously. I challenged one of Revers statements. That is what I have been answering. But you have already answered the question he keeps running from.

"Everyone knows they look for Messiah still." MB statement

And the reason they are still looking for the coming of Messiah is the Old Testament!

mfblume · #5 02-03-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

I am not interested in yours and French's argument. I'm sure he will more than answer your questions. Don't know or care what you had posted previously. I challenged one of Revers statements. That is what I have been answering. But you have already answered the question he keeps running from.

"Everyone knows they look for Messiah still." MB statement

And the reason they are still looking for the coming of Messiah is the Old Testament!

I answered your question to me, now you answer mine. What did Jesus say and why? You could have answered by now with all these posts you made.

Revelationist · #6 02-03-2008, 03:27 PM

John 5:46
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
KJV

Was Jesus right? Did they believe Moses? Just answer the question please...

mfblume · #7 02-04-2008, 01:39 AM

Thanks for your answers, Prax.

The danger I see in former Jews continuing rituals of Law in their Christianity is that it HAS led to demands for them to do so as time went on. I see no encouragement from the New Testament for anyone to do so other than to reach lost Jews. I only see words that lead to leaving such things.

Why would Paul be so against Gentiles keeping them if the Jews could do so?

I only mentioned about a possible issue with me since you continued to defend ritual keeping despite the fact that I agreed with you about doing it for reaching the lost. But you cleared that up.

freeatlast · #8 02-04-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Thanks for your answers, Prax.

The danger I see in former Jews continuing rituals of Law in their Christianity is that it HAS led to demands for them to do so as time went on. I see no encouragement from the New Testament for anyone to do so other than to reach lost Jews. I only see words that lead to leaving such things.

Why would Paul be so against Gentiles keeping them if the Jews could do so?

I only mentioned about a possible issue with me since you continued to defend ritual keeping despite the fact that I agreed with you about doing it for reaching the lost. But you cleared that up.

He certainly was against Gentiles being MADE to keep any of the laws.

I have a br-in-law that likes to argue that no where in the bible, were Jews who become believers, were ever freed from their jewish roots or obeying their Jewish religeon.

What think ye??

ManOfWord · #9 02-04-2008, 08:51 AM

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He certainly was against Gentiles being MADE to keep any of the laws.

I have a br-in-law that likes to argue that no where in the bible, were Jews who become believers, were ever freed from their jewish roots or obeying their Jewish religeon.

What think ye??

Your BIL is correct. There is nothing in the NT that tells the Jews that they must not follow their Jewish traditions or cease from the following the law. But Paul told them that Jesus was the fulfillment of the law regarding sacrifices/atonement etc. There is no evidence whatsoever that Paul ceased from following his Jewish traditions. Gentiles, in Ac. 15 were basically told to keep the Noahic covenant which the Jews have believed are the basic requirements for heaven.

Jews do NOT believe that keeping the law gets them into heaven and never have. Certainly there have been those throughout history who have elevated the law to that level, but not by-an-large.

Revelationist · #10 02-04-2008, 06:19 PM

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Your BIL is correct. There is nothing in the NT that tells the Jews that they must not follow their Jewish traditions or cease from the following the law. But Paul told them that Jesus was the fulfillment of the law regarding sacrifices/atonement etc. There is no evidence whatsoever that Paul ceased from following his Jewish traditions. Gentiles, in Ac. 15 were basically told to keep the Noahic covenant which the Jews have believed are the basic requirements for heaven.

Jews do NOT believe that keeping the law gets them into heaven and never have. Certainly there have been those throughout history who have elevated the law to that level, but not by-an-large.

Wow... go back and re-read Galations....