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Old 02-07-2008, 11:59 PM
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I know a preacher that read one of these emails over the pulpit and preached for nearly 15 minutes about how America is going to hell in a hand basket and how Obama is a Muslim not a Christian.

It made me sick. Sadly Christians cannot be counted on to tell the truth anymore. They will believe any bit of rightwing propaganda they hear. I assure you this is doing more harm to America than most realize.

Sister Aquila, I'm with you about this pastor going off about Obama over the puplit. that was wrong. I don't believe politics have a place in the pulpit. I think it's also wrong for the dems to campaign in all the churches that they do as well.

we have a LARGE church here in CA. where the pastor got up and told the people that if they didn't vote republican that they would be committing a sin. that was wrong too.

however, I do believe that obama is undercover. I believe he is anti american and NOTHING ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING will change my mind on that!!!
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:37 AM
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I made my own statement it was not a response to yours.

The words I wrote were me standing up.

Not a reflection to your opinions.
Since you quoted me, I took it as a response.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:40 AM
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Sister Aquila, I'm with you about this pastor going off about Obama over the puplit. that was wrong. I don't believe politics have a place in the pulpit. I think it's also wrong for the dems to campaign in all the churches that they do as well.

we have a LARGE church here in CA. where the pastor got up and told the people that if they didn't vote republican that they would be committing a sin. that was wrong too.

however, I do believe that obama is undercover. I believe he is anti american and NOTHING ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING will change my mind on that!!!
In Canada, if a candidate is endorsed in Church, you could be in danger of losing your Charitable Status as Non Profit Org (Churches) are not to be political.

Lose your Charitable Status and all your Tax Receipts to contributers are worthless in regards to a tax break.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:45 AM
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In Canada, if a candidate is endorsed in Church, you could be in danger of losing your Charitable Status as Non Profit Org (Churches) are not to be political.

Lose your Charitable Status and all your Tax Receipts to contributers are worthless in regards to a tax break.

I don't think our churches are suppose to endorse a candidate either but they kinda look the other way here in the states.
I heard that in canada,your churches can't preach against homosexuality. word is, that some have even been arrested or had their church shut down.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:48 AM
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My Brother has an article on it and read to me some of the highlights. his background was carefully investigated. He joined a church in chicago that in reality is NOT christian to begin with. finally, he joined as a cover.
That church is as Christian as any other Christian church in America. What people don't like about it is it's seeming "racist" agenda....not just afro-centric, but even praising L Farrakhan..

There is no evidence he joined as a cover AND...good grief...if he wanted cover why not chose something less controversial than that church?
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In Canada, if a candidate is endorsed in Church, you could be in danger of losing your Charitable Status as Non Profit Org (Churches) are not to be political.

Lose your Charitable Status and all your Tax Receipts to contributers are worthless in regards to a tax break.
churches can lose their tax exempt status for telling people what candidate to vote for or not to vote for is my understanding
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:54 AM
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Prax, what do you think of Hillary's health plan for all Americans???

Ron seems to think it's a great Idea.
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Old 02-08-2008, 01:51 AM
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Prax, what do you think of Hillary's health plan for all Americans???

Ron seems to think it's a great Idea.
Ron is Canadian....Id say...if we can get the filthy rich to pay taxes instead of finding tax loopholes and shuffling their money into off shore accounts etc etc...and to help pay for it then I am all for it.

But all too often the burden goes on the middle class.
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Old 02-08-2008, 04:45 AM
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Sister Aquila, I'm with you about this pastor going off about Obama over the puplit. that was wrong. I don't believe politics have a place in the pulpit. I think it's also wrong for the dems to campaign in all the churches that they do as well.

we have a LARGE church here in CA. where the pastor got up and told the people that if they didn't vote republican that they would be committing a sin. that was wrong too.

however, I do believe that obama is undercover. I believe he is anti american and NOTHING ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING will change my mind on that!!!
Bro...why did you call me "Sister Aquila"? Don't you know your Bible? Aquila was the husband of Prisca (Percila) and the two assisted Paul, risking their own lives for him at one point.

Bro, I'm a bro. You can't call my gender correctly but you expect me to believe you have the "goosebumps" telling you Obama is a secret Muslim? lol You know, he's opened sessions by introducing Christian Chaplains (who pray in Jesus name by the way) and he leads with reciting the pledge. Don't believe every email rumor you read bro. If I were you, I'd ask myself if my feelings about Obama were "rational" (based on objective facts) or "irrational" (based on emotional bias). There may be some subconscious psychological triggers you've not dealt with effecting your opinions. Just think about it.
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Old 02-08-2008, 05:05 AM
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Re: Your Predictions for the coming elections???

Oh...and here's Obama being sworn in by Vice President Dick Cheney...with his hand on their family BIBLE. Not the Koran...the Bible.



Jeeeesh. The rightwing has made us weirder and weirder. lol

We need to put more value on the truth folks.
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