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Old 02-15-2008, 12:02 PM
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It's not winning??? actually the war in Iraq has begun to turn in our favor Ron. If America failed then why is Iraq beginning to spring back to life?
I think it was an unjust war from the beginning. But pragmatically, I don't think that even by 'winning' the war people will change when we pull out. I know many hope for a 'democracy' similar to Saudi Arabia.....but I can't see that happening.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:03 PM
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Mark, you are saying that ALL extremely rich do this??????? I know some that are very honest.....and extremely rich. BTW, do you know that many of middle America don't file tax returns????? Until we repeal this unethical system we will always have this trouble.

If there has to be taxes I think it should be no more than 10% and it should be across the board, rich and poor.

I don't know the percentage, but i know that a great many don't.
They know the loopholes better then the middle class and have the means to find ways to avoid the system. Very few in middle america get away with not paying taxes.

Dave,I don't like the tax system either. I think we are taxed to death.

what do you think of a flat tax ?
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:04 PM
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I don't know the percentage, but i know that a great many don't.
They know the loopholes better then the middle class and have the means to find ways to avoid the system. Very few in middle america get away with not paying taxes.

Dave,I don't like the tax system either. I think we are taxed to death.

what do you think of a flat tax ?
IF we must have a tax the flat tax is the most equitable way to go.
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I think it was an unjust war from the beginning. But pragmatically, I don't think that even by 'winning' the war people will change when we pull out. I know many hope for a 'democracy' similar to Saudi Arabia.....but I can't see that happening.
How do you think we are we going to win the war against terrorism?
should we have just let it all go and did nothing ?
should we just protect our own borders? seems a little too late for that i think

We may just have to keep some military presence in there for many years.
the slovic nations have been fighting for 1000 years and nothing else works but to have permanant military presence.

Doesn't it beat having terrorist camps growing everywhere ?
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:15 PM
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The US has 1.4 Trillion Dollars to throw at a war it ain't winning.


Love you Bro. Ron , really do. But with all due respect, if you haven't been there then you have no right to go there. There are places here the government needs to be helping our own, I will admit that. But if you stand for UHC...you would truley love what we are doing over there.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:19 PM
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How do you think we are we going to win the war against terrorism?
should we have just let it all go and did nothing ?
should we just protect our own borders? seems a little too late for that i think

We may just have to keep some military presence in there for many years.
the slovic nations have been fighting for 1000 years and nothing else works but to have permanant military presence.

Doesn't it beat having terrorist camps growing everywhere ?
I guess that's where I'm different than most. I say we do start by securing our borders. I believe it can be done. I think we should handle issues at home first. This is a simplistic answer but that is my starting point. I'm not real concerned with fighting the 'war' on drugs in other countries. Take care of the problem here and we won't have to worry about the other places.
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Old 02-15-2008, 01:54 PM
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I guess that's where I'm different than most. I say we do start by securing our borders. I believe it can be done. I think we should handle issues at home first. This is a simplistic answer but that is my starting point. I'm not real concerned with fighting the 'war' on drugs in other countries. Take care of the problem here and we won't have to worry about the other places.

FERD, you may have another undercover Democrat on your hands
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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Reformed Dave,

Everytime I see one of your posts I think it's Greg Bahnsen resurrected from the dead.

Talk about wishful thinking.

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Love you Bro. Ron , really do. But with all due respect, if you haven't been there then you have no right to go there. There are places here the government needs to be helping our own, I will admit that. But if you stand for UHC...you would truley love what we are doing over there.
This is a great point. One of the main reasons, European countries and Canada have the $$$$ to spend on socialist health care scemes is because they dont have to spen $$$$ on Military. We do it for them.


Maybe they should start paying us, then we could afford it too.
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This is a great point. One of the main reasons, European countries and Canada have the $$$$ to spend on socialist health care scemes is because they dont have to spen $$$$ on Military. We do it for them.


Maybe they should start paying us, then we could afford it too.
Another good point Bro. Ferd.

Wonder how much of the defecit we could pay off if we stopped giving financial aid to France, England, Africa, Canada, Mexico, Korea, etc.etc.etc.
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