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Ths should upset most everybody (all the cons left me) but I honestly believe Pentecost was birthed out of the Methodist movement due to the strong Holiness/Sanctification teachings.
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I think Peter was the father of Pentecost... anything outside of what he started is a fake....
Peter fathered Pentecost ????............ oh no.
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The Arnold book is quasi non-fiction.
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Ths should upset most everybody (all the cons left me) but I honestly believe Pentecost was birthed out of the Methodist movement due to the strong Holiness/Sanctification teachings.
Bartleman had Baptist roots. And along with other stops had a time with the weslyan Methodists
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God is the Father of Pentecost. There were two more annual feasts as well. the other two was Passover and Tabernacles. Every head of the household was commanded to go up to Jerusalem once in a year for all three feasts.
Thanks Apprehended. You get the prize. I'm thinking more along revival terms.

When it comes to the fulness of salvation where did we start?
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Most Pentecostals (including Assembly of God, Church of God, and some Oneness Pentecostals) believe that the birth of the Spirit and the Baptism in the Spirit are two separate experiences. In other words, when a person turns to God in faith and repentance and asks Jesus to come in, Jesus does come in as the Holy Spirit. This experience is called conversion, salvation, being born again. From then on, the Spirit of God (of Jesus) is living in the heart. of that individual. As a child of God that person is encouraged to seek an experience called the Baptism in the Spirit (or an overwhelming, saturating, empowering experience or a filling of the Spirit). This is standard teaching in churches known as "trinity Pentecostal" or "Charismatic" and even in some of the "Oneness" or "Jesus' Name" Pentecostals. This was an accepted doctrine in the UPC for years and is still taught and preached by some UPC ministers.
Bro Jim Sam thanks for the info. Quite helpful. I have heard someone say that the pentecostal movement started with a move toward "holiness" as opposed "tongues".

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Thanks Apprehended. You get the prize. I'm thinking more along revival terms.

When it comes to the fulness of salvation where did we start?
The Pentecostal revival as we know it today sprung out of the holiness movement that taught the doctrine of "Entire Sanctification." The holiness movement began with the preaching of John Wesley.

It is when men and women begin living lives of holiness, the temple of man is clean, God will move in. With the holiness movement, there came a strong desire for Pentecost though they did not know what they were desiring. The Holy Ghost began to be poured out. Many spoke in tongues within the holiness movemnt, including John Wesley. The outpouring, like a rain began to fall in increasing abundance often centered around various groups like the Irvingites and others for instance.

The rains came in ever increasng abundance but it was not until widespread media circulation of the outpourig by a lady publisher whose name I don't recall at the moment...Flrorence something ? Her paper went world-wide. Missonaries abroad came home to receive their Pentecost.

Evolution of doctrine came as a line upon line, line upon line, precept upon precept, precept upon precept, here a little there a little untill...we have what we have today.

First it was the doctrine of holiness, then it was the doctrine of the evidence of the initial infilling of the Holy Ghost which was received in Topeka, Ks., among the bible school students in charge of Charles Parham. Next came the doctrine of "The finished Work of Calvary," taught by William Durham of Chicago about 1907. Out of that came the doctrine of the Oneness, fully revealed in 1913.

Just one line upon another. It appears that there has been no fresh revelation since 1913, though some claim that there has been...such as the preterist and the Divine Flesh folks.

Yet, God has a fresh Word for all who can receive it. I am waiting for it too.
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God is the Father of Pentecost. There were two more annual feasts as well. the other two was Passover and Tabernacles. Every head of the household was commanded to go up to Jerusalem once in a year for all three feasts.
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I don't know who would be the "father" of Pentecost other than God Himself. Some say Parham, but, others reject this because of some controversies surrounding Parham. There is no clear consensus as to who could be called the Father of Pentecost.
He gets a prize. I don't. Whats up with that??

And I gave a list of books, to boot.
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He gets a prize. I don't. Whats up with that??

And I gave a list of books, to boot.
thanks one accord.........how about a cookie
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thanks one accord.........how about a cookie

Ok...I feel better now.
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