The Key to Salvation is... the Book of Acts...

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Sorry, but finding those verses in the book of Acts is comparable to the Gospel's in the midst of the rest of the bible. No easter egg hunt required.

Remember RevRandy said the book of Act's not just Acts 2:38. Acts 2:38 is along the journey to salvation.

The bub comment was because it seemed like you were arguing with what RevRandy posted, but you were arguing about something that wasn't even posted and then what you posted implied that the Gospel wasn't in the book of Acts when in fact it is.

All this nonsense of trying to say that traditional apostolics bypass the gospel and are only concerned with people being wet and "acting" like they're drunk in the Holy Ghost is deserving of the El Toro award. We preach, convert and accept baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost as a result of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

When I was baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost I fully understood why I needed and was accepting of it. I was mostly convinced of it because of the book of Act's where it told me what I had to do because I was pricked in my heart. I'm sure most others were the same. Of course we heard the Gospel and that is why we did what is commanded of us.

Amen, good post!

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Funny ... I know one-steppers who've obeyed Acts 2:38 ... odd.

What is a one -stepper?

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Hey Randy...........PREACH!!!!!!!!! *B-3 Hammond* You the man bro, keep it up!
We had a HG blow-out this weekend...including, a girl who started to speak in tongues in the pew where two Philipino young men sitting in front of her understood what she said...they told our Pastor she was speaking their language!!!!!!!

That's the way it should be.

This is what's going on in many church assemblies today,1 Cor.14:23: If therefore the whole church be come together into one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad (crazy)?

This is what should be taking place in the church,1 Cor.14:24: But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all:25: And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Apostolic must be name calling in your book too??? Funny.,

Not really.

But the term "three-stepper" implies a works based view of salvation. I believe that is a warped assessment of our doctrine.

Your signature says what we believe.

Two commands and a promise.

It really is that simple.

Arguing the semantics of "what happens when" seems to be the more legalistic approach to doctrine.

The important thing is to point lost souls to the proper response to Jesus' sacrifice - which is found in Acts 2:38.

What is so insidious about that?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Not really.

But the term "three-stepper" implies a works based view of salvation. I believe that is a warped assessment of our doctrine.

Your signature says what we believe.

Two commands and a promise.

It really is that simple.

Arguing the semantics of "what happens when" seems to be the more legalistic approach to doctrine.

The important thing is to point lost souls to the proper response to Jesus' sacrifice - which is found in Acts 2:38.

What is so insidious about that?

Then it appears Paul was legalist as were the Apostles ... friend because they did not teach the point of Salvation as you do.


Of course our definitions would differ on what a legalist is ... as also it differs on what a sacrament is ... so we'll do the merry-go round thing.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by revrandy

What is a one -stepper?

I suggest you spend the rest of the day reading the archives if it hasn't registered yet.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Joelel

That's what i'm saying,Jesus said these signs shall follow,not just tongues or not just any one sign.Everyone has different signs.

Yes on the day of pentecost they seen the tongues and heard the Holy Ghost.Paul said each person has different gifts.

2: And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3: And there appeared (they seen)unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them

Mark 16:15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17: And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18: They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover

Joel,
The Word says, "like as of fire." Whatever they experienced this was the imagery. It is not saying "actual" fire.

Much like in Mat 3:16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

The dove was the most gentle of birds. Whatever they felt and however Jesus presented himself - this was the imagery - the gentle dove.

Not an actual dove descending.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Then it appears Paul was legalist as were the Apostles ... friend because they did not teach the point of Salvation as you do.

All of the Apostles were in the Upper Room when the Holy Ghost fell. They were present when Peter preached at Pentecost. None offered an objection - or a different response to the Gospel message Peter preached. None of them disagreed with his answer to the question "what shall we do."

Both the Pauline and General Epistles were written to churches and individuals who had that same understanding.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Several years ago, a preacher friend of mine was sick. Very sick. Another brother who had been working among a tribe of American Indians out west and I went to pray for and visit the sick brother. As we prayed, the Lord spoke a word of prophecy to me, that seemed, well, outlandish to me. So I asked the Lord for confirmation. I sat there speaking in tongues as we prayed. The brother who served as a missionary out west spoke up, and said, "You know, Brother, the tongues you are speaking in sounds very much like the Apache Language." That was all the confirmation I needed. I stood up and spoke, "When your enemies think you have fallen, and will not rise, then I will raise you up, and send you from this place to minister the Gospel to the American Indians". The brother was healed, and, a few months later, resigned his church and went west. He had a very fruitful ministry in New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado, working among the Indians.

Enjoying the thread, RevRandy.

Amen,that's the way it should be.Acts 2: 1: And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2: And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3: And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4: And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5: And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6: Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7: And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8: And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9: Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10: Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11: Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Not really.

But the term "three-stepper" implies a works based view of salvation. I believe that is a warped assessment of our doctrine.

Your signature says what we believe.

Two commands and a promise.

It really is that simple.

Arguing the semantics of "what happens when" seems to be the more legalistic approach to doctrine.

The important thing is to point lost souls to the proper response to Jesus' sacrifice - which is found in Acts 2:38.

What is so insidious about that?

Amen!