The Key to Salvation is... the Book of Acts...

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Being born of water and Spirit is two parts of the one birth of being born again.

I do not agree with this.

At all.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Seriously, can it somehow be viewed in a positive way?

How about a neutral term, AE ... some terms are just neutral.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

How about a neutral term, AE ... some terms are just neutral.

I am not convinced THAT term is neutral.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

I am not convinced THAT term is neutral.

Perception is everything ... now all we need is a mob w/ torches to agree w/ you.

[revrandy]

Dan..

DO you believe to be saved you must Repent of your sins ..Be Baptized in Jesus Name and Be Filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues?

Or do you believe that only Repentance is necessary for Salvation?

[Jehoram]

Daniel,

If we use the principle of "reduce to the ridiculous" the most important thing becomes obedience to the Word. Some place more emphasis on certain portions of it than others, but if we reduce everything down to the most simple of terms I think we will agree that Acts 2:38 encapsulates a fullness of response to the Gospel message that no other passage in the Word does.

I am not suggesting it is more important than other passages. But I am not minimizes its place in God's Word either.

It is what it is.

And it is THE proper response to the Gospel.

Would be adherants need to obey the two conjunctive commands of repentance and baptism. The rest is up to God.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Joel,
The Word says, "like as of fire." Whatever they experienced this was the imagery. It is not saying "actual" fire.

Much like in Mat 3:16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

The dove was the most gentle of birds. Whatever they felt and however Jesus presented himself - this was the imagery - the gentle dove.

Not an actual dove descending.

They seen the Holy Ghost that look like fire,it we not fire,It looked like tongues of fire.Yes the Holy Ghost looked like a dove too.Old testement God looked like a burning bush.He can look like anything.He has the power.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by revrandy

The Cross is everything that Jesus Christ did for us... but it did not empower us.. We receive Power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon us... That the Work of the Cross is completed in our lives daily... The Work of Mercy is sufficient in our hearts and The Work of Grace in our minds...

Bro. I will lead folks who don't know our Savior to the Cross but also to the Resurrection and to the Upper Room...

Don't let the Cross become a Crutch... Because it Held the Savior but it had to let the Savior go.... Because what came next is what happens in every life who receives the Holy Ghost... the Resurrection....

1 Cor 1:18

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish "foolishness", but unto us "which" are saved it is the power of God.

The cross and Christs' journey to the cross holds miracles and Apostolic annointing.

The cross is not just a connection we link through repentance and them move on.

It is with us in our daily walk with Christ.

I understand the power of the Holy Spriit in us.

You will prick more mens hearts by the preaching of the cross.

Than you will with preaching Acts 2:38.

Acts 2:38 came after the mention of the death of Christ on Calvary.

That is why churches are empty and revival has not swept the land.

We are trying to have sinners make decisions on Acts 2:38 before the cross of Calvary convicts them of their sins...

You have me wrong to try and convince me Acts 2:38.

That experience I have and will preach.

But the preaching of the Cross is the power of God unto salvation.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Perception is everything ... now all we need is a mob w/ torches to agree w/ you.

I think they all took the day off.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by JamDat

Sorry, but finding those verses in the book of Acts is comparable to the Gospel's in the midst of the rest of the bible. No easter egg hunt required.

Remember RevRandy said the book of Act's not just Acts 2:38. Acts 2:38 is along the journey to salvation.

The bub comment was because it seemed like you were arguing with what RevRandy posted, but you were arguing about something that wasn't even posted and then what you posted implied that the Gospel wasn't in the book of Acts when in fact it is.

All this nonsense of trying to say that traditional apostolics bypass the gospel and are only concerned with people being wet and "acting" like they're drunk in the Holy Ghost is deserving of the El Toro award. We preach, convert and accept baptism, and the gift of the Holy Ghost as a result of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

When I was baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost I fully understood why I needed and was accepting of it. I was mostly convinced of it because of the book of Act's where it told me what I had to do because I was pricked in my heart. I'm sure most others were the same. Of course we heard the Gospel and that is why we did what is commanded of us.

The easter egg hunt started with this Thread post at the beginning. Do not be ashamed to preach the cross of calvary today.

Then preach Acts 2:38.

Preach the second chapter of Acts as the Acts unfold....

Do not start at the end of the chapter...

The preaching, singing and teaching on the cross has for the most part been lost.

Give me an email address and I wll send you a sermon on the Cross...

The sermon does not stop at the cross but brings men to the need for Acts 2:38.

In many denominational churches the cross has been lost.

And with it many souls of mankind..