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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Prax, That seems to be part of the disconnect here. Some think it is either/or.... Either baptism alone is efficacious for remission of sin, or it is a discardable novelty...
I think not.
I would question the faith of a newly converted believer who rejects baptism. It is the most holy rite of passage for the new Christian. After all, it is the public demonstration and declaration of ones new found faith. If one rejects Christian initiation publicly it does, by default speak of his heart's condition.
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Shoot Hoover.. you made me enter this thread again...

but only to say this...
Two or three weeks ago at most... a young man who had attended a non-denominational church accross town faithfully for 8 years (a currently Oneness church pastored by my former UPCI pastor, so I know what I'm talking about) was baptised in our church in the name of Jesus Christ...
He started coming with his wife who had decided to get back to her roots within the last few months and had started attending a weekly Bible study...
He was shocked to learn in that study that he was to be Baptised in Jesus Name... for 8 years he faithfully went to a church who taught believe on the Lord... and had never even heard that he was supposed to be baptised.
This is an absolutely true story... as other posters from my church can attest... and I can personally attest because this man is good friends with our neighbours who we won to the Lord this year.
You can go so far, as to no longer teach or preach baptism. There's a slope and it's slippery.