A very Ultra Conservative UPC Pastor told one of his saints that if he were to go to another UPC down the street that is not as strict as theirs....he might as well not go to church at all.
Giving the man the benefit of the doubt, I would figure that the UC pastor has estimated that the other pastor's shepherding practices are not sufficient to keep the flock together in the long run.
Or I could jump in the air in anticipation of the bandwagon that's sure to come rolling here along any minute now, and say that his words are motivated by fear, jealosy, greed, a desire to control the lives of the "little people," and a lack of confidence in his own message . . . did I cover everything, guys?
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That is so very immature! Sorry, but it is. I mean, I would rather not go to any church at all than go to a church whose man-made religious standards differ from mine own?! This is cultish and very Jim Jones syndrome.
But, then again, that is what religion brings one to.
That is so very immature! Sorry, but it is. I mean, I would rather not go to any church at all than go to a church whose man-made religious standards differ from mine own?! This is cultish and very Jim Jones syndrome.
But, then again, that is what religion brings one to.
You left out, 'I would NEVER attend a church that had any hypocrites in it!'
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"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
In all due respect given to the Pastor - my question would be "what kind of saint was this", maybe he was a hopper as Pentecostals at times are welll noted for, hopping from church to church and also who would know if this is taken out of context.
If the Pastor made those statements bluntly as he was situations with himself and also UPC then he is in dangerous territory and would be afraid for myself should I sit under that type of leadership.
Giving the man the benefit of the doubt, I would figure that the UC pastor has estimated that the other pastor's shepherding practices are not sufficient to keep the flock together in the long run.
Or I could jump in the air in anticipation of the bandwagon that's sure to come rolling here along any minute now, and say that his words are motivated by fear, jealosy, greed, a desire to control the lives of the "little people," and a lack of confidence in his own message . . . did I cover everything, guys?
I couldn't have said it any better OP Carl.
I was under such a pastor for many years. I'm sure you don't realize that any pastors like that exsist.
Goody for you.
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I was under such a pastor for many years. I'm sure you don't realize that any pastors like that exsist.
Goody for you.
Some pastors (and people) used the all or nothing approach! I know a pastor who told his own daughter that he would just as soon her be a drug addict than to wear her dress a few inches above her knee, because either way she was going to hell!
This girl today is not in church! It's really sad!
A very Ultra Conservative UPC Pastor told one of his saints that if he were to go to another UPC down the street that is not as strict as theirs....he might as well not go to church at all.
To be honest ... many have walked away w/ this notion throughout the movement whether they attended a con or moderate church or were/weren't told this explicitly
... some think that if they can't measure up and if the church they went to HAD ALL TRUTH ... then it's useless to go to any type of church... ever. They chalk themselves up to being UNSAVEABLE.