Why do non UPC think they know what is best for UPC? Is that not the very spiritual arrogance the same accuses of UPC?
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
I guess I would actually like to see the UPC succeed. They are the best oneness organization going and with a few changes could be an amazing organization.
I did spend the last 27 years of my life in a UPC church and have only been out of the mothership for the last 7 months.
My sister and her husband are ministers in the UPC and my wife's brother is going to get his local license this year. My wife's family are pioneers in the UPC movement. It is the only org I know.
However, now that I am on the outside looking in, and not having to defend the UPC every single day of my life, it is a lot easier to admit to the problems that the UPC is facing.
The impression I get is that the main change you want to see in the UPC is that they either 1/ tolerate the preaching of PCI doctrine, or 2/ convert to a PCI denomination totally. (not gonna happen, I'm pretty sure)
You seem to think the UPC's main "problem" is that they strongly advocate the so called PAJC/"3-step" doctrine.
Frankly, to most of us on this side, that "problem" is really not a problem at all!
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
Ok...I have a question.....no disrespect...but why would anybody in their right mind give a flip what the presbyterians do or think or whatever......
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
Simply because human nature is the same no matter what label you give yourself.......
The Presbyterians have a bunch of false-doctrine issues going on, not the least of which is their struggle to deal with the "gay issue" in their churches and clergy.
The Trinity itself, dominant in most "mainstream" churches, is the mother of all manner of false doctrines.
So I don't know why so many self-described Apostolics spend so much time worrying about what the false-doctrine churches think of us. That kind of thinking just opens the door to the spirit of compromise that's trying to creep in among God's people... (some may say it has already crept in... but that's another story)
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
Ok...I have a question.....no disrespect...but why would anybody in their right mind give a flip what the presbyterians do or think or whatever......
That is a typical attitude Dan, no one outside my family, church or group has a lick of knowledge or spiritual insight.
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That is a typical attitude Dan, no one outside my family, church or group has a lick of knowledge or spiritual insight.
Umm...(See previous post. Thanks)
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Daniel 12:3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever.
The Presbyterians have a bunch of false-doctrine issues going on, not the least of which is their struggle to deal with the "gay issue" in their churches and clergy.
The Trinity itself, dominant in most "mainstream" churches, is the mother of all manner of false doctrines.
So I don't know why so many self-described Apostolics spend so much time worrying about what the false-doctrine churches think of us. That kind of thinking just opens the door to the spirit of compromise that's trying to creep in among God's people... (some may say it has already crept in... but that's another story)
No problem. Just thought a little wisdom could not hurt.
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Bro Johnny King was the DS of the Alberta District & I am not surprised he did this.
He is an ultra-con.
I picked him up at the airport for Elder Reynolds funeral 6 years ago.
A nice guy but an Ultra-con to the core.
I wish him well.
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Originally Posted by Sam
I am not UPC and not familiar with the politics.
Who is Johnny King?
What office did he hold on the board?
Does he pastor a church, and is the church affiliated?
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