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Ultra Conservative
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02-29-2008, 06:00 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
no help, huh?
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Yer a moderate conservative conservative.
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02-29-2008, 06:11 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: Roll Call....
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no help, huh?
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Moderate conservative....
BTW the UPCI has no rule about facial hair that I know of
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-29-2008, 06:51 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Moderate conservative....
BTW the UPCI has no rule about facial hair that I know of
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No WRITTEN rule.
Interestingly enough I have been told DB is or has authored a position piece stating its ok after all. (About 1500 years late) Although even if true I wouldn't expect to see a plethora of bearded pastors anytime soon.
To be honest it would probably trigger another "Tulsa" last straw incident.
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02-29-2008, 06:59 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West
Posts: 1,285
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Re: Roll Call....
There's no written rule against women wearing pants either.
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02-29-2008, 08:36 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: near Cincinnati, Ohio
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Re: Roll Call....
I just realized you can see who voted and how they chose to categorize themselves.
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02-29-2008, 08:58 PM
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Registered Member
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Re: Roll Call....
I thunk about it long and hard.....
Then I woke up and realized I had pressed the wrong button...
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02-29-2008, 09:15 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
No WRITTEN rule.
Interestingly enough I have been told DB is or has authored a position piece stating its ok after all. (About 1500 years late) Although even if true I wouldn't expect to see a plethora of bearded pastors anytime soon.
To be honest it would probably trigger another "Tulsa" last straw incident.
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right, no written rule
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-01-2008, 06:32 AM
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arbitrary subjective label
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fifth Brick Ranch on the left.
Posts: 1,640
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
No WRITTEN rule.
Interestingly enough I have been told DB is or has authored a position piece stating its ok after all. (About 1500 years late) Although even if true I wouldn't expect to see a plethora of bearded pastors anytime soon.
To be honest it would probably trigger another "Tulsa" last straw incident.
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If this is your truth, I feel sorry for you. Even though I have attended UPC churches where facial hair was proscribed in the by-laws and written platform standards, and observed the "carrot and cudgel" approach to get a new convert to shave his beard (he couldn't be an usher until he complied), every pastor I have discussed this with has explained that it is cultural; beards are biblical; and it may change in the future.
I sincerely doubt that a mass exodus would occur over preserving a peculiarity that is an indirect consequence of a strict yet subjective interpretation of one scripture, when derivation of principle from a multitude of other scriptures yields the opposite conclusion. Your "movement" would consist of the illiterate and the stubborn.
One could plausibly make the argument that any groundswell of unswerving devotion that exists for this rule has probably already left the building and is on the bus for Tulsa.
But if it makes you, as a facial-hair-cultivator, feel more daring, dashing, swashbuckling, and cutting-edge to think this, go right ahead. 
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03-01-2008, 10:38 AM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 5,356
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
If this is your truth, I feel sorry for you. Even though I have attended UPC churches where facial hair was proscribed in the by-laws and written platform standards, and observed the "carrot and cudgel" approach to get a new convert to shave his beard (he couldn't be an usher until he complied), every pastor I have discussed this with has explained that it is cultural; beards are biblical; and it may change in the future.
I sincerely doubt that a mass exodus would occur over preserving a peculiarity that is an indirect consequence of a strict yet subjective interpretation of one scripture, when derivation of principle from a multitude of other scriptures yields the opposite conclusion. Your "movement" would consist of the illiterate and the stubborn.
One could plausibly make the argument that any groundswell of unswerving devotion that exists for this rule has probably already left the building and is on the bus for Tulsa.
But if it makes you, as a facial-hair-cultivator, feel more daring, dashing, swashbuckling, and cutting-edge to think this, go right ahead. |
I still say your a moderate conservative conservative. LOL!
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03-01-2008, 11:00 AM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
Posts: 1,962
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Re: Roll Call....
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
If this is your truth, I feel sorry for you. Even though I have attended UPC churches where facial hair was proscribed in the by-laws and written platform standards, and observed the "carrot and cudgel" approach to get a new convert to shave his beard (he couldn't be an usher until he complied), every pastor I have discussed this with has explained that it is cultural; beards are biblical; and it may change in the future.
I sincerely doubt that a mass exodus would occur over preserving a peculiarity that is an indirect consequence of a strict yet subjective interpretation of one scripture, when derivation of principle from a multitude of other scriptures yields the opposite conclusion. Your "movement" would consist of the illiterate and the stubborn.
One could plausibly make the argument that any groundswell of unswerving devotion that exists for this rule has probably already left the building and is on the bus for Tulsa.
But if it makes you, as a facial-hair-cultivator, feel more daring, dashing, swashbuckling, and cutting-edge to think this, go right ahead. |
WOW!!!! I guess I should have used the Major Over-reaction smiley as opposed the mere run for the hills one!!!!
For the record I have in NUMEROUS posts said exactly what you did, its a cultural bais and not a Biblical mandate and the culture is changing.
How you extrapoled a TIC comment to ME calling for such a movement ???? LOL
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