Question--Ethics

[Ron]

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

sorry i still live in a world of black and white, no, no and no, lol,dt

This the way I tend to be.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Margies3

I'd LIKE to live in a world of black and white (at least in theory, I would).

But in today's world, I don't see how that's possible. Which of the presidential candidates haven't lied about something? Even if we don't know about the lies right now, in time, believe me the media will ferret them out. It's a sad world we live in, but the reality of it is that we are basically left with the choosing the lesser of the evils every time we vote.

At the same time, we have to keep in mind that we cannot expect people who are not children of God to act like we can expect the children of God to act. The POWER is not within them.

I see what you are saying, but isn't that sad?

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by Ron

I see what you are saying, but isn't that sad?

yes, it really is. If it wasn't for the Lord, I'd say we couldn't give this old world a minute of hope at all.

[Ron]

[QUOTE=Margies3;406191]yes, it really is. If it wasn't for the Lord, I'd say we couldn't give this old world a minute of hope at all.[/QUOTE]

Amen!

[My Own Eyes]

Originally Posted by Ron

Let's say that there is a politician that is running for office & you catch him in a lie-would you still support him/her?

Let's say a major corporation owns a chain of shops where one can get thier favourite beverage & it is found out the Corporation supports Abortion & Gay Rights-would you still shop there?

Let's say that there is a Minister caught in a lie-would you still support him/her?

This should be interesting.

1. Yes. There may exist a non-lying politician, but I wouldn't put money on it.

2. Maybe. Though If they supported something I have a problem with, I would try to avoid shopping there as much as possible. In this case, I take more issue with the Abortion part, then the Gay Rights thing. I do, as much as possible, try to Boycott Wal-mart, because I think they are pure evil.

3. No. But to be fair, this has more to do with being a minister, than telling a lie. I don't personally support any ministers. (That's not bashing. It's just telling the truth. Please don't infract me! )

[Ron]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

1. Yes. There may exist a non-lying politician, but I wouldn't put money on it.

2. Maybe. Though If they supported something I have a problem with, I would try to avoid shopping there as much as possible. In this case, I take more issue with the Abortion part, then the Gay Rights thing. I do, as much as possible, try to Boycott Wal-mart, because I think they are pure evil.

Amen--but they are cheap!

3. No. But to be fair, this has more to do with being a minister, than telling a lie. I don't personally support any ministers. (That's not bashing. It's just telling the truth. Please don't infract me! )

So, telling a lie is okay?

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

1. Yes. There may exist a non-lying politician, but I wouldn't put money on it.

2. Maybe. Though If they supported something I have a problem with, I would try to avoid shopping there as much as possible. In this case, I take more issue with the Abortion part, then the Gay Rights thing. I do, as much as possible, try to Boycott Wal-mart, because I think they are pure evil.

3. No. But to be fair, this has more to do with being a minister, than telling a lie. I don't personally support any ministers. (That's not bashing. It's just telling the truth. Please don't infract me! )

I've heard people say that before but nobody has ever told me what makes them evil. Can you tell me? I don't mean that in a nasty way. I'm seriously curious about it.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by My Own Eyes

1. Yes. There may exist a non-lying politician, but I wouldn't put money on it.

2. Maybe. Though If they supported something I have a problem with, I would try to avoid shopping there as much as possible. In this case, I take more issue with the Abortion part, then the Gay Rights thing. I do, as much as possible, try to Boycott Wal-mart, because I think they are pure evil.

3. No. But to be fair, this has more to do with being a minister, than telling a lie. I don't personally support any ministers. (That's not bashing. It's just telling the truth. Please don't infract me! )

**Off Topic** (apparently we don't have an Off Topic sign smilie anymore)

I just want to ask why you don't support ministers? A "minister" isn't necessarily a "preacher". We all are to be ministers! If someone is hurting or in need we are to "minister" to them - pray for them, feed them, clothe them, help them, etc........ Just curious!

[My Own Eyes]

Originally Posted by Ron

So, telling a lie is okay?

It's not ok.

But first of all, I have zero interest in politics. I think they are ALL corrupt. And sometimes we have to take the least of many evils. I also think that you can't legislate morality. People have to want to be good. No amount of forcing is going to do it. Even sending people to prison doesn't rehabilitate them, it just keeps them away from us.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Margies3

I've heard people say that before but nobody has ever told me what makes them evil. Can you tell me? I don't mean that in a nasty way. I'm seriously curious about it.

Corporately, they are money driven not ethics based!
Factories in China are run by people with Mercedes, the workers are basically
slave labourers!

Who is getting fat in money? Not the workers who deserve a fair wage, not a $1.24 a day.