Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by CC1
Actually for males I think old time Oneness Pentecostals have picked about 1963 and have tried to stop the clock there. A man should have hair above his ears and preferrably swept back and kept in place with grease (or hairspray that is not obvious). Add a black suit with a white shirt and you are there!
Look at pictures of the old time Pentecostals.
They had no problem with facial hair.
That clean shaven thing came along later.
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Sam
Look at pictures of the old time Pentecostals.
They had no problem with facial hair.
That clean shaven thing came along later.
Yup. I always thought it was funny that in the OP publlications about Oneness Pentecostal history they always had some pics of highly revered pioneers with facial hair but managed to never speak about it in the text.
Bottom line is that if some of those Pentecostal Pioneers tried to get on the platform of a many modern ultra con churches they would be escorted out of the building.
Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
Well if the standards change with the times , and the point is to seperate ourselves from the world, then is it possible that facial hair was acceptable until the hippie days? We wouldn't to be associated with them I don't think.
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by scotty
Well if the standards change with the times , and the point is to seperate ourselves from the world, then is it possible that facial hair was acceptable until the hippie days? We wouldn't to be associated with them I don't think.
I think most conservitives will say that the No beard standard came about in opposition to the hippie generation.
Beards were not forbidden before that, and many early Apostolics wore them.
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Ferd
I think most conservitives will say that the No beard standard came about in opposition to the hippie generation.
Beards were not forbidden before that, and many early Apostolics wore them.
I agree, Ferd.
What's curious tho, is why the prohibition wasn't repealed after the hippie movement?
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Ferd
I think most conservitives will say that the No beard standard came about in opposition to the hippie generation.
Beards were not forbidden before that, and many early Apostolics wore them.
So now that the hippies are history then beards and facial hair are ok ?
do we men need to be less modest with our pants? cause you know if your wear them baggy we may be confused with a gangster or rapper..
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Ferd
I think most conservitives will say that the No beard standard came about in opposition to the hippie generation.
Beards were not forbidden before that, and many early Apostolics wore them.
Yup but when Apostolics did decide to forbid them they did not do so with the proper context. They just declared facial hair a sin, rebellion, etc and preached the dickens out of it.
The result of that type preaching and OP legalism in general is a group of people where many see the laundry list of do's and don'ts as absolute lists of sins that can never change. Somewhere along the way teaching principles was lost and only recently discovered again as pastors have had problems justifying "holiness" decisons made decades ago that are indefensible.
Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Encryptus
Tradition and the idealization of an era.
Excellent point.
The problem with "seasonal" guidelines is that they're never "seasonal". And, while many hold to the "old paths", the new dangers creep in unabated.
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