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Old 03-04-2008, 05:54 PM
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Not a long we had a minister visiting us and he told me he felt the devil while our young people did a song...I just looked at him and said, that is strange I talked in tongues during the song and felt the presence of the Lord...
I think a lot has to do with our own hearts. If we want to condemn whatever it will be impossible to feel God's spirit but if we enter into His courts with prasie rest assured HIS PRESENCE will be there.

I love it and I thank our young people and leaders for practicing hours and hours with them.

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Not a long we had a minister visiting us and he told me he felt the devil while our young people did a song...I just looked at him and said, that is strange I talked in tongues during the song and felt the presence of the Lord...
I think a lot has to do with our own hearts. If we want to condemn whatever it will be impossible to feel God's spirit but if we enter into His courts with prasie rest assured HIS PRESENCE will be there.

I love it and I thank our young people and leaders for practicing hours and hours with them.
Yep...it's amazing to hear someone say that the Spirit isn't moving in such and such church while everyone else is saying it is...apparently only they are the ones that can't feel the Spirit. It's about dispostion of mind.

BTW...I wonder how this guy knows what the devil feels like...
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Yep...it's amazing to hear someone say that the Spirit isn't moving in such and such church while everyone else is saying it is...apparently only they are the ones that can't feel the Spirit. It's about dispostion of mind.

BTW...I wonder how this guy knows what the devil feels like...
Have you ever felt the presence of a devil?
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Have you ever felt the presence of a devil?
I don't know....I mean I have the Holy Ghost...why would I be feeling a devil?

I mean I've "sensed" a demon in others or rather was given a word that someone was demon possessed....

Im really careful about that kind of stuff because I have known people who became afraid of their own shadow...they were seeing demons everywhere.

But to say someone feels the devil in church in a song? That's kinda weird. I think Pentecostals are apt to call anything that is strange or different to their paradigm "of the devil" and believe they are feeling something evil.
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Have you ever felt the presence of a devil?
I certainly have! I have been in a few situations and around a few people that I absolutely felt pure evil.
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I certainly have! I have been in a few situations and around a few people that I absolutely felt pure evil.
what does it feel like? Does it feel like that slimey goo you feel in one of those haunted house high schools put on?
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:34 AM
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I don't know....I mean I have the Holy Ghost...why would I be feeling a devil?

I mean I've "sensed" a demon in others or rather was given a word that someone was demon possessed....

Im really careful about that kind of stuff because I have known people who became afraid of their own shadow...they were seeing demons everywhere.

But to say someone feels the devil in church in a song? That's kinda weird. I think Pentecostals are apt to call anything that is strange or different to their paradigm "of the devil" and believe they are feeling something evil.


I think that's painting with an awful broad brush. "Pentecostals" aren't the only ones who call things of the devil. Many different "religions" call things that they don't agree with "of the devil" MANY people say that SPEAKING WITH TONGUES is of the devil.

Bro, it seems to me that you have an awful strong contempt for Apostolic people in the sense that you are pretty much always negative about the things that Apostolic people do and believe in. The tone with which you post is VERY NEGATIVE and just a bit on the condemning side. I rarely see you post with much positive insights and encouragment about what we do and believe in.

You seems to have great respect for Oneness and the New Birth Doctrine, but not much respect for those who preach it or live it.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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I don't know....I mean I have the Holy Ghost...why would I be feeling a devil?

I mean I've "sensed" a demon in others or rather was given a word that someone was demon possessed....

Im really careful about that kind of stuff because I have known people who became afraid of their own shadow...they were seeing demons everywhere.

But to say someone feels the devil in church in a song? That's kinda weird. I think Pentecostals are apt to call anything that is strange or different to their paradigm "of the devil" and believe they are feeling something evil.
I have felt the presence of the enemy more times than I can count. Sometimes I know exactly what is going on and other times I don't have a clue what the Lord is trying to show me. The times when I don't have a clue I try to watch what is happening around me or think about what I'm thinking about. I believe that when God shows me the presence of the enemy that He is trying to make me aware of something for my good.

It doesn't scare me because I know it is God who is allowing me to sense the enemy's presence just as it is God who allows us to feel His presence. I just wish I understood it better.

I rarely, if ever, discuss this with anyone and this is the first time I've ever posted anything about this.

I remember a day when I was waking up in bed and felt a demonic presence near me, I couldn't move or talk and the demon was telling me how he was going to destroy my life. I had recently moved to Maryland just outside of Washington DC. It took everything within me to call on Jesus and move my arms...and the demon left. My marriage ended three years later. But this is not what I'm talking about when I say I can sense/feel the presence of the enemy at times.

Surely you've had similar experiences. These experiences make us more aware of the spiritual battles that we are fighting and how much we need to draw close to God.

I don't recall feeling the devil in a church song, either. Although there have been times in worship when I've felt like the songs were hyped up to appeal more to the flesh and not truly being directed at God. I wouldn't say "the devil" was behind that type of thing but our own flesh and carnal thinking. Like trying to drum up a move of God instead of fixing our minds on Him as we seek and let Him be the object of our worship. Sometimes we have to push into the presence of God by resisting all the thoughts that would distract us and turn our minds from worshipping Him. I do believe some of those distracting thoughts come from the enemy and I have to resist them to keep focussed. You will probably say I give the devil more credit than I should.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:38 AM
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what does it feel like? Does it feel like that slimey goo you feel in one of those haunted house high schools put on?
Bubba, demonic spirits and possession is nothing to joke about. I'm not afraid of the devil, but neither do I discount what he can do. I've seen it and experienced it first hand. It is not some stupid little game and nothing for anyone to make fun of.
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I believe the better definition of what we have come to call signing is Interpretive Praise
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