CeCe Winans under fire for singing at Gay church

[tv1a]

The Bible says the gates of hell shall not prevail... Assuming this church is what some people on this forum suggests it is, the gates had to split open. While the one god tongue talkers were busy sharpening their knives, Cece was busy preparing the nets.

Originally Posted by GodsBabyGirl

Thank q for your comment...

Anyone is much more receptive to ministry of any kind when you minister from a standpoint of 'I am no better than you are. God can save, heal, deliver, etc. Your issue/sin is not too hard for God to handle. My issue isn't too hard for God to handle....'

What is eluding many in the ministry is that we must become all things to all so some can be saved. No, all won't be. But that doesn't mean we stop fishing just because the river is dirty.

When handling fish out of the MS, your hands will get dirty. When you take the fish off the hook, you will get a little soiled. It is not the most comfortable experience, that fishing.

I went one time with my grandma. There were mosquitoes everywhere! And they tore my hide up, ya heard?

She told me that sometimes snakes come out. And especially in the Deep South sometimes you'll see alligators!

But yet and all, despite the risk of the environment, many still partake of this leisurely activity. When they can just as easily go to a fish store and buy the fish, caught AND cleaned, packaged real nice ready to put in the pan and fry down with some cornbread.

But I know a few folk who won't buy seafood from the store. They actually PREFER to go out and risk the elements to catch fresh fish out the water, pack them on ice, have the truck or car stank as all get out, THEN go home and clean the fish up, which is just plain N.A.S.T.Y.!!!!!

Yet us fishers of men...well, we don't want to get our hands dirty. We don't want to risk the elements in FEAR that they will overtake us.

Here we got all power and authority, have the Word of God AND the Holy Ghost at our possession, and afraid or unable to use it.

We too scurred (scared) to go out and fish for souls in the lake of Sodom and Gomorrah. We too scurred that a demon may jump on us and we may actually get a buzz from all the perversion swarming all around us....for shame...

And that's cool if that's where we are at.

But if God leads someone else (CeCe) to get out of their comfort zone and go to the river instead of waiting for the fish to jump out of the water and VOILA! all of a sudden the fish (harvest) just jumped up in my net!!!!!

Let her alone. She is being led of God. And I admire the fact that she is getting out of her comfort zone and gone fishin!

We still in da boat!

Well, go ahead and wait for the fish to jump in your net. You know we got one (a net) on every corner. Maybe that poor fish would survive outta water longer than we think....

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by tv1a

While the one god tongue talkers were busy sharpening their knives, Cece was busy preparing the nets.

If you really think Cece is "busy preparing her nets" for these people, I have a bridge over in Brooklyn that I can sell you for really good price.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The Bible says the gates of hell shall not prevail... Assuming this church is what some people on this forum suggests it is, the gates had to split open. While the one god tongue talkers were busy sharpening their knives, Cece was busy preparing the nets.

This church is the exact opposite of Fred Phelps and just as rotten...probably more so as it's more sociably acceptable.

If you were asked to preach at Phelp's what would you preach about?

[Prodigal]

I don't know what I was thinking. The "church" can't even agree on something like running a commercial on TV, let alone agree on ministering to homosexuals. Let's recap some of what's been said.

It's a sin.
It's an abomination.
It's a curse.
No, it's not really a curse, but in effect a curse.
It's a satanic snare. (The official position of the UPCI)

I have friends that are homosexuals (but we're not hang- out buddies)
It is not biblical to keep company with homosexuals.
You can catch it. Those spirits will "get a hold of you". It's happened to saints.
The homosexual demon will roll their eyes, their tongue will stretch way out, and they will contort their bodies in postitions like that of a gymnast.

It's a spirit.
It's a demon.
It's the devil.

It's a punishment from God for unrepented sin.
You can't repent. The demon will not let you.
A homosexual cannot fall to their knee's, ask forgiveness, and the blood of christ will not wash over them.

All fags should be lined up against a wall & shot. (spoken like a true evangelist)
If you even suspect that someone in your congregation is gay, throw them out.

You can be delivered.
You can't be fully delivered.
You can't be instantly healed. It comes in phases.
You can live a victorious life.
You can still be a homosexual, just a celebate one.

If this is what a homosexual encounters, no wonder the success rate for ex-gay ministries is almost non-existent. Not to mention all of the gay people that hide behind being married, or have a successful music ministry, or can even be a dynamic evangelist. When gay people do seek guidance in the church and they encounter those "on the down low", they leave as quickly as they can.

[TRFrance]

ok.
and after saying all that...your point is what exactly?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Prodigal

I don't know what I was thinking. The "church" can't even agree on something like running a commercial on TV, let alone agree on ministering to homosexuals. Let's recap some of what's been said.

It's a sin.
It's an abomination.
It's a curse.
No, it's not really a curse, but in effect a curse.
It's a satanic snare. (The official position of the UPCI)

I have friends that are homosexuals (but we're not hang- out buddies)
It is not biblical to keep company with homosexuals.
You can catch it. Those spirits will "get a hold of you". It's happened to saints.
The homosexual demon will roll their eyes, their tongue will stretch way out, and they will contort their bodies in postitions like that of a gymnast.

It's a spirit.
It's a demon.
It's the devil.

It's a punishment from God for unrepented sin.
You can't repent. The demon will not let you.
A homosexual cannot fall to their knee's, ask forgiveness, and the blood of christ will not wash over them.

All fags should be lined up against a wall & shot. (spoken like a true evangelist)
If you even suspect that someone in your congregation is gay, throw them out.

You can be delivered.
You can't be fully delivered.
You can't be instantly healed. It comes in phases.
You can live a victorious life.
You can still be a homosexual, just a celebate one.

If this is what a homosexual encounters, no wonder the success rate for ex-gay ministries is almost non-existent. Not to mention all of the gay people that hide behind being married, or have a successful music ministry, or can even be a dynamic evangelist. When gay people do seek guidance in the church and they encounter those "on the down low", they leave as quickly as they can.

Since we've left you quite confused why don't you just read the Bible and do what it says........

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Since we've left you quite confused why don't you just read the Bible and do what it says........

Exactly.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what other people believe.
What matters is what you believe.

[GodsBabyGirl]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

ok.
and after saying all that...your point is what exactly?

The point is let's usher them into the presence of God.

Because the church as we know it is the most dangerous place to repent and get right with God.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by GodsBabyGirl

The point is let's usher them into the presence of God.

Because the church as we know it is the most dangerous place to repent and get right with God.

Maybe yours is. Not mine. I hear the Gospel preached every week and sinners are faithfully called to Christ.

[tv1a]

About 10 minutes. That's about all I can handle of myself. Although I did make the congregation suffer for about 45 minutes tonight.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

If you were asked to preach at Phelp's what would you preach about?