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Old 03-14-2007, 03:43 PM
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Im sitting here on the curb of life watching 2 teenagers playing chicken in their parents car. problem is, neither is willing to loose.

we all know it is going to end badly and people are going to get hurt but there aint nothing that can be done.

too many people staring in their own personal movie.
So true, that's why pushing this back a year was such a horrible idea.
It accomplished nothing.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:49 PM
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So true, that's why pushing this back a year was such a horrible idea.
It accomplished nothing.
well, some would say it gave the teenagers more time with the gas peddle. it looks like it accomplished quite a bit more than anyone wanted...

what I really want to know is who is going to foot the emergency room bill?
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imo, an anti-internet stance is impractical for today's generation; one dealing with appropriate usage would definitely be the way to go from a pastoring perspective....
I agree, but I do respect those men who are choosing/have chosen abstinence. They seem to have made it this far without the internet and feel they can go further, and I guess, all the way.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:57 PM
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well, some would say it gave the teenagers more time with the gas peddle. it looks like it accomplished quite a bit more than anyone wanted...

what I really want to know is who is going to foot the emergency room bill?

Ferd, you crack me up always declaring as if you had a vote in this.

What I ask remains unanswered. If this does not pass, and by some miracle the UPC does not split, are the group of you calling for all this going to leave?

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Ferd, you crack me up always declaring as if you had a vote in this.

What I ask remains unanswered. If this does not pass, and by some miracle the UPC does not split, are the group of you calling for all this going to leave?

wait a second BOOM. Im not picking a side. if youve read what ive said today you should understand that my view is that it isnt about who is right. It is about what is happening.

I dont have a vote, that doesnt mean I dont have some stake. the last time we did this little diddy was about the Etheopian debacle. remember? that cost MY church 40 souls. I have a stake BOOM, reguardless of not having a vote.

I dont think it will be a miracle if the UPCI doesnt split. If it doesnt split, that will mean some men drift off on their own with much less fellowship and much less cover and they will be much more subject to the whims of the wind.

I would much rather see 2 strong organizations with a common goal than to see one larger yet weaker organizaiton pulling against itself. that isnt distructive.
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wait a second BOOM. Im not picking a side. if youve read what ive said today you should understand that my view is that it isnt about who is right. It is about what is happening.

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And it is talk about what is happening more than actually what IS happenning. Maybe I need to get out more and breath less pure oxygen.

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And it is talk about what is happening more than actually what IS happenning. Maybe I need to get out more and breath less pure oxygen.

review the tapes. count my posts on that subject.
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You're very welcome.

It is important to note that the UPC will survive this. We have been through similar trials, though not this large, and not this drawn out.

It will be interesting (if this passes) to see if the prognosticators who predict a resulting charismatic trend are right.
Of course it will survive this. I'm quite certain that they will survive the rapture too. I see little prognostication when certain trends are established. If a tree is leaning toward the ground already, there is little question which way the tree will fall when a wind hits it.
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Of course it will survive this. I'm quite certain that they will survive the rapture too. I see little prognostication when certain trends are established. If a tree is leaning toward the ground already, there is little question which way the tree will fall when a wind hits it.
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Of course it will survive this. I'm quite certain that they will survive the rapture too. I see little prognostication when certain trends are established. If a tree is leaning toward the ground already, there is little question which way the tree will fall when a wind hits it.
How do you really feel about it?
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