Christ Did Not Send Me to Baptize?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Someone else can do it.In many assemblies the pastor don't do much baptizing.It don't have to be anyone.You can call on the name of the Lord and jump iin the water.The word don't even say someone else has to touch you.

Joel, show us where anyone baptized themselves? In fact if you study the word AND the original greek it demands someone else do the baptizing while you, the one being baptized is a passive action. In other words you are allowing someone to baptize you. Remember the disciples were commanded to go out an baptize others

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Not necessarily. He is separating prioties and actions. In Acts the immediate response to hearing the gospel was repentance and baptism and Paul DID indeed baptize people.

How can they be baptized if they have not heard?

Amen and focusing on I Cor, which AE opens with.

I Cor 6:11 speaks of being washed, sanctified and justified.

Heb 10:22 says our bodies are washed in pure water.

Romans 15:15 says we are sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 3:28 says we are justfied by our faith.

I don't see the message changing or being in question in any of the epistles.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Amen and focusing on I Cor, which AE opens with.

I Cor 6:11 speaks of being washed, sanctified and justified.

Heb 10:22 says our bodies are washed in pure water.

Romans 15:15 says we are sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

Romans 3:28 says we are justfied by our faith.

I don't see the message changing or being in question in any of the epistles.

Thank you and that is all very good. I want to say I believe in water baptism. However at this point I have to wonder what is meant by our bodies are washed? Since it's not our bodies that inherit eternal life. I wonder if this is maybe a reference to human nature?

Anyways, thanks

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Thank you and that is all very good. I want to say I believe in water baptism. However at this point I have to wonder what is meant by our bodies are washed? Since it's not our bodies that inherit eternal life. I wonder if this is maybe a reference to human nature?

Anyways, thanks

Sure it is referring to our human nature.

I Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:"

This is obedience of our faith.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Joel!! This guy visited our church and I don't know why they asked him to testify!

He said, "Well, I've been baptized three times. One time in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Second time in Jesus name and the third time I took it upon myself and jumped in the creek."

I just think it's funny how so many different people think you must get baptized their way.One thinks you got to get baptized in the river,another says you can't hold your nose,another says you got to get baptized by them.The word don't say what should be said except you are to call on the name of the Lord.It don't say someone must put you under the water.What I believe is,they all went to the river and all called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I do believe you must call on the name of the Lord, that most don't do.

Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Joel, show us where anyone baptized themselves? In fact if you study the word AND the original greek it demands someone else do the baptizing while you, the one being baptized is a passive action. In other words you are allowing someone to baptize you. Remember the disciples were commanded to go out an baptize others

Yes the ministers are involved in baptizing,but I think they went with them to the water and everyone called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I don't think men should be putting their hands on women.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Thank you and that is all very good. I want to say I believe in water baptism. However at this point I have to wonder what is meant by our bodies are washed? Since it's not our bodies that inherit eternal life. I wonder if this is maybe a reference to human nature?

Anyways, thanks

When we hear the word of God it gives us faith and washes us from sin.

Eph.5:25: Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;26: That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,(SEED)27: That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Yes the ministers are involved in baptizing,but I think they went with them to the water and everyone called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I don't think men should be putting their hands on women.

The greek word for baptize and the grammar does not allow for someone to dunk themselves. Someone is baptizing someone else. That means someone is dunking someone else into the water.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Joelel

I just think it's funny how so many different people think you must get baptized their way.One thinks you got to get baptized in the river,another says you can't hold your nose,another says you got to get baptized by them.The word don't say what should be said except you are to call on the name of the Lord.It don't say someone must put you under the water.What I believe is,they all went to the river and all called on the name of the Lord and jumped in the water.I do believe you must call on the name of the Lord, that most don't do.

Water baptism in Jesus name remits sins or washes your sins away. Acts 22:16:And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized,and wash away thy sins,calling on the name of the Lord.

Joel, you're a trip!

John 3:16 "John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:"

I'm pretty sure they didn't line up and say, "One for the money, two for the show, three to get ready and four to goooooooo".....jump, splash.....

You're a trip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Baptism is a proper response to the Gospel. It is not the Gospel.

Amen.