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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
CC1, this post again demonstrates how long you have been gone... I would say there are very very few who would harp on such every sermon.
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Stephen,
When you have as many relatives and friends still UPC as I do you are not "gone".
When you hear in person or CD, or DVD, or webcast the many sermons I hear each year you are not "gone".
I do believe there are more churches that don't hear the clothesline from the pulpit every sermon as much as you used to now but please note what I said was that even when the clothesline is not preached it is alluded to usually in just about every sermon.
Have you not listened to sermons from all of the major confernces the last few years? I believe you will have a hard time finding one that does not at some point veer off into standards / seperation at some point.
I am not saying every UPC preacher is in the pulpit pounding it and screaming about women with pants on going to hell. Perhaps that is what you think I am thinking.
I will tell you that what I have not personally been exposed to is this supposedly growing segment of UPC churches and pastors where the legalism is not emphasized to the point that many church members do not adhere to them and they are reservd for those who wish to actively participate in platform ministrry, teaching, etc. In other words churches wtih 1st class and 2nd class saints. LOL!!! I guess that is at least a step in the right direction.
I think you guys hear the standards / seperation so much in sermons that you don't realize how much it is there as you just filter it out and remember the other aspects of the sermons. I bet if you go back and listen to sermons from major UPC conferences over the last few years you will be hard pressed to find one that does not incorporate the "hold the fort" message in it.
There is even an entire "Hold The Fort" conference hosted by my friend Pastor Mooney.
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