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Jermyn Davidson · #**141** 03-17-2008, 09:10 AM

Choir robes are too hot! When you want to praise the Lord with your voice and a dance, you lose your breath real easy and sweat a whole lot. So then afterwards, you go and hang your sweaty robe in a robe closet with other sweaty robes where it will hang until next Sunday night. EEEWWW!

Then, what about the poor Christian that wants to praise the Lord and then as they start, they trip over their robe? Not only that, they are expensive to maintain and I think they are flashy and take away from the ministering that could be happening when people sing.

I don't even like the idea of "uniforms" in a church, but it's not a big deal. Just not my preference.

Barb · #**142** 03-17-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 1399

Choir robes are too hot! When you want to praise the Lord with your voice and a dance, you lose your breath real easy and sweat a whole lot. So then afterwards, you go and hang your sweaty robe in a robe closet with other sweaty robes where it will hang until next Sunday night. EEEWWW!

Then, what about the poor Christian that wants to praise the Lord and then as they start, they trip over their robe? Not only that, they are expensive to maintain and I think they are flashy and take away from the ministering that could be happening when people sing.

I don't even like the idea of "uniforms" in a church, but it's not a big deal. Just not my preference.

Robes don't have to be flashy and are not nearly as distracting as what some wear in the choir stand...JMHO...

Whole Hearted · #**143** 03-17-2008, 09:30 AM

Choir robes also cover a multitude of sins.

Barb · #**144** 03-17-2008, 09:43 AM

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Choir robes also cover a multitude of sins.

Huh?!

Michael Phelps · #**145** 03-17-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb

Disagree...choir robes cause those in misic ministry to look the same, thus taking the congregation's attention away from who is wearing what, to what they are presenting in ministry.

II Chronicles 5:12 states in the KJV that the singers and musicians were "arrayed in white..." In other words, they were uniform...they all looked the same. JMHO

How do you feel about preachers wearing robes? I know of a UPC pastor who wore one when he preached, a pretty flashy one, at that.

Barb · #**146** 03-17-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

How do you feel about preachers wearing robes? I know of a UPC pastor who wore one when he preached, a pretty flashy one, at that.

You have to understand that though raised UPCI, I was nearly 24 years in the COOLJC, and preaching robes was a common thing.

My personal opinion is that anything that distracts from ministry is not good. So a flashy robe on a preacher...no...

However, I see nothing wrong with a preacher wearing a robe, if that were his choice.

Rico · #**147** 03-17-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

How do you feel about preachers wearing robes? I know of a UPC pastor who wore one when he preached, a pretty flashy one, at that.

You didn't ask me, but, if a preacher wants to wear a robe while preaching then I don't see anything wrong with it. Jesus wore a robe when He preached!

Michael Phelps · #**148** 03-17-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb

You have to understand that though raised UPCI, I was nearly 24 years in the COOLJC, and preaching robes was a common thing.

My personal opinion is that anything that distracts from ministry is not good. So a flashy robe on a preacher...no...

However, I see nothing wrong with a preacher wearing a robe, if that were his choice.

Thanks for the response, I really didn't know what to think of it at first, since it was something that I wasn't used to - but I could find no good reason NOT to, other than - as you say - IF it detracts from the message.

scotty · #**149** 03-17-2008, 10:59 AM

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I have been to several women's conferences, some of which were very POWERFUL. However, I have to admit, I walked out on Ruth Reider's Holiness Session at one conference, it was so sickening. (And yes, there always was at least one session at each conference telling us womenfolk how to dress if we are to be approved by "The Church" (UPC in their book) and to be approved by the other saints.) And yes, they covered the uncut hair doctrine and the no-pants-on-women thing. And yes, you are not fully approved nor accepted if you don't agree with their standards.

NOW... several posts back (I can't remember the poster), someone stated they were tired of being constantly criticized because they still ADHERED to the standards. Well I have to say, in my 10 years of UPC, I have been CONSTANTLY looked down on by many in the UPC because I did not "fall in" and obey "The Standards" ... so all I can say is, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, Buddy. Not so fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?

But you just said that your preacher was not a clothesline preacher so why are you looked down on?...the conferences? then don't go. Simple answer huh. Is there not a church that has everything the UPC has without the standards? If so why would any of you bother with UPC? What is it about UPC that keeps them coming despite hating the standards?

lilanastasia · #**150** 03-17-2008, 11:39 AM

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Not to totally change the subject, but I don't get the whole platform standard idea. You either believe it or you don't. Why would you go half way?

I think the proper term should be platform "RULES", you think?

If the church teaches a specific standard, then that standard should be respected at all times - not just when you're on the platform...correct?

Our church has platform "rules" - pantyhose, hair "up", men in white shirts, no slits...stuff like that - but they certainly aren't "standards" - or something that we would consider a heaven/hell issue.