clearly anger, when channeled correctly is not sinful.
Jesus took time. Plotted his actions.
In our society, that's called premeditation!
Good post, Ferd, I seriously didn't remember that passage......
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Good post, Ferd, I seriously didn't remember that passage......
Seriously, this brings up another dilemma:
How do we reconcile the scripture where Jesus clearly had intent to strike people with the following edict:
I Timothy 3:3
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
How do we reconcile the scripture where Jesus clearly had intent to strike people with the following edict:
I Timothy 3:3
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
another translation says "not violent but gentle"
would an act of violence make one a violent person?
If someone were to try to hurt my child, my reaction would be quite violent. but in general, as a matter of my every day life, i am not a violent person.
would that not apply to Christ? were the money changers not doing violence to the Children of God? Was his action a protection?
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would an act of violence make one a violent person?
If someone were to try to hurt my child, my reaction would be quite violent. but in general, as a matter of my every day life, i am not a violent person.
would that not apply to Christ? were the money changers not doing violence to the Children of God? Was his action a protection?
it doesnt matter much to me as long as Jesus is plannin on whippn you and not me, lol,dt
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
would an act of violence make one a violent person?
If someone were to try to hurt my child, my reaction would be quite violent. but in general, as a matter of my every day life, i am not a violent person.
would that not apply to Christ? were the money changers not doing violence to the Children of God? Was his action a protection?
If that's the case, does a pastor have the right to punch someone in church who is disrespecting the sanctuary, by say - chewing gum, or talking thru his sermon? What about a person who comes into the sanctuary drunk? What about someone who steals money from the Sunday School offering plate?
And, understand, I'm just opening discussion on what could be perceived as Biblical paradox.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
How do we reconcile the scripture where Jesus clearly had intent to strike people with the following edict:
I Timothy 3:3
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
The Bible doesn't say that he actually hit the people. He could have used the whip for the animals.
In verse 16 He tells the sellers to get the doves out of the Temple. If he was violent against everything he would have thrown the cages down or opened them and let the doves out himself.
I believe, in accordance with scripture, he drove them out with His words and used the cords on the animals. JMO.
If that's the case, does a pastor have the right to punch someone in church who is disrespecting the sanctuary, by say - chewing gum, or talking thru his sermon? What about a person who comes into the sanctuary drunk? What about someone who steals money from the Sunday School offering plate?
And, understand, I'm just opening discussion on what could be perceived as Biblical paradox.
when said pastor can walk on water and calm the raging sea, then he is free to respond in what ever way he so chooses....
short of that, it is best for him to act with sobriety and gentleness
It should also be pointed out that Jesus' action and use of the whip (which I believe was for the money changers not the animals) only happened once in scripture.
Jesus action was also not directed at the saints but those who would do harm to the saints.... if you will.
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The Bible doesn't say that he actually hit the people. He could have used the whip for the animals.
In verse 16 He tells the sellers to get the doves out of the Temple. If he was violent against everything he would have thrown the cages down or opened them and let the doves out himself.
I believe, in accordance with scripture, he drove them out with His words and used the cords on the animals. JMO.
That makes sense. It was just one of those little things that piqued my curiosity on this lovely Omaha day........
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