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Old 03-20-2008, 08:30 AM
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Then I'd have to agree with you. LOL

It's like family. I have a rather rude and obnoxious uncle. He comes over and visits on Christmas and we put up with him. We all kinda talk about him...but don't let another person outside of the family talk about him. We'll defend each other. That's just the way things are. LOL

I see this much the same way. Blacks can talk about blacks and issues facing blacks. They can criticize one another and go back and forth on the issues. They're a family. But...let a little white guy like me jump in and start criticizing or trying to "correct" them with how they see the world and look out! LOL

Bro...that's just life man.
Not when it backed up by NAACP, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Not when white men loose jobs by a slip of the Tongue.

....the last guy said "Nappy" ....give me a brake........


Look what happened to "The Dog".....

Blacks can basically say what ever they want, where ever want on any kind of media.

Let a Powerful white man insinuate anything about a Black and all civil rights groups come after him.


Whites are getting tired of it.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:31 AM
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Not when it backed up by NAACP, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Not when white men loose jobs by a slip of the Tongue.

....the last guy said "Nappy" ....give me a brake........


Look what happened to "The Dog".....

Blacks can basically say what ever they want, where ever want on any kind of media.

Let a Powerful white man insinuate anything about a Black and all civil rights groups come after him.


Whites are getting tired of it.
Exactly!!!! That, in itself, is causing more racism, IMO.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:31 AM
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She still has a point that white people are being more discriminated against for their comments than other people of color. I have to agree with her on those points. Sorry!!!
..."discriminated against for their comments"?

That may well be true, but that wasn't the focus of her article. She was referring not simply to making controversial comments, but she's saying:
"... any white person 30 years old or younger has lived, since the day he was born, in an America where it is legal to discriminate against white people. In many cases it's not just legal, but mandatory, for example, in education, in hiring and in Academy Award nominations."
Why is it that she is only concerned with what she perceives as anti-white discrimination, but she and others like her always seem to have an excuse for anti-black and brown discrimination?

Conservative commentators want to crucify Barack & Wright for these recent comments (which I'm ok with, because the comments were outrageous) but they many of these people made excuses for Trent Lott's racist remarks, said nothing when Bush showed up at Bob Jones University (which has policy prohibiting interracial relationships among its students), and Sean Hannity himself was blatantly sympathetic to Duane "Dog" Chapman, the bounty hunter who was caught using the N-word repeatedly against his son's black girlfriend.

I could provide you with many more examples, but I don't even think I need to. If you dont see the racial double standard in a lot of these conservative talk radio hosts and commentators, you probably haven't really been paying close attention. There is clearly a racist element in much of today's conservative movement-- certainly, at least, in the way it tolerates and makes excuses for racist behavior against people of color, while getting indignant at perceived racial unfairness against whites.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:34 AM
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[QUOTE=Praxeas;418799]Ruth was in David's lineage...was Rahab? Anyways....Jesus is so far far removed from Ruth that he can't be called "mixed". That's absurd. If that is the case just about everyone in America is "mixed".



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She still has a point that white people are being more discriminated against for their comments than other people of color. I have to agree with her on those points. Sorry!!!
We've seen the pendulum swing the other way. For years discrimination was legal and open. After protests such as Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, the Federal government enforced integration. Unfortunately things like racial quotas, set asides, etc. were part of that and resulted in what we call "reverse discrimination." I remember talking to a person at GE about a job he had open. He told me he would get "a star" if he hired a black person and "2 stars" if he hired a black woman. He hired a man who was black. I also remember back in the nineteen sixties when I was supposed to hire a person. This was before I went to GE. I was told by a manager a couple levels above me to hire a black (that was the acceptable term back then) person. This was a job to be filled by someone outside the company. I had a white person interview that I thought would be a better employee but I obeyed my superiors and hired a black person. Unfortunately he did not work out well and we had to let him go before his two month probationary period was over. In his speech Barack Obama also addressed the attitude of some of us white people who have seen "reverse discrimination" affect us personally.
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Chris,

It embarresses me that you would chraacterize someone accusing the Federal Government or CIA of creating the AIDS virus to kill Black people as "a bit misinformed".

That is a ridiculous marginalizing of outrageous statements.

You just refuse to deal with the concepts of personal responsibility and accountibility to truth and rationality that ALL Americans have regardless of their skin color.

When you make excuses for this kind of outrageous hate mongering you are not helping those you seek to help.
CC1, let me explain this to you.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

JW and CH share a common enemy. It is called those who are opposed to insane liberalism.

thus CH must defend in ally.
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Old 03-20-2008, 08:39 AM
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Chris,

It embarresses me that you would chraacterize someone accusing the Federal Government or CIA of creating the AIDS virus to kill Black people as "a bit misinformed".

That is a ridiculous marginalizing of outrageous statements.

You just refuse to deal with the concepts of personal responsibility and accountibility to truth and rationality that ALL Americans have regardless of their skin color.

When you make excuses for this kind of outrageous hate mongering you are not helping those you seek to help.
I must agree.
C Hall, for once, it would be refreshing to see you display the intellectual courage and honesty to say that this man's words were inflammatory, divisive, and just flat out wrong.

Would it pain you that much to state the obvious?

You know full well that if the roles were reversed.... if this was Huckabee/McCain etc, at a white church where a conservative pastor was making equally false and hateful comments, you would have no problem bashing him!

Are you so beholden to your liberal ideology that you'd have no problem criticizing a Republican/conservative in this situation, but you bend over backward to make excuses for a liberal who makes such false and inflammatory charges? That's how it's appearing to me, more and more. And I think that's unfortunate.
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We've seen the pendulum swing the other way. For years discrimination was legal and open. After protests such as Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King, the Federal government enforced integration. Unfortunately things like racial quotas, set asides, etc. were part of that and resulted in what we call "reverse discrimination." I remember talking to a person at GE about a job he had open. He told me he would get "a star" if he hired a black person and "2 stars" if he hired a black woman. He hired a man who was black. I also remember back in the nineteen sixties when I was supposed to hire a person. This was before I went to GE. I was told by a manager a couple levels above me to hire a black (that was the acceptable term back then) person. This was a job to be filled by someone outside the company. I had a white person interview that I thought would be a better employee but I obeyed my superiors and hired a black person. Unfortunately he did not work out well and we had to let him go before his two month probationary period was over. In his speech Barack Obama also addressed the attitude of some of us white people who have seen "reverse discrimination" affect us personally.
I remember a former financee's father, an executive for Southwestern Bell, saying he was ordered to hire a black man, even though not qualified.

I didn't see the part of Obama's speech speaking on the "reverse discrimination". I'll check that out. Thanks.
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CC1, let me explain this to you.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

JW and CH share a common enemy. It is called those who are opposed to insane liberalism.

thus CH must defend in ally.
now that is just funny, and true, lol,dt
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..."discriminated against for their comments"?

That may well be true, but that wasn't the focus of her article. She was referring not simply to making controversial comments, but she's saying:
"... any white person 30 years old or younger has lived, since the day he was born, in an America where it is legal to discriminate against white people. In many cases it's not just legal, but mandatory, for example, in education, in hiring and in Academy Award nominations."
Why is it that she is only concerned with what she perceives as anti-white discrimination, but she and others like her always seem to have an excuse for anti-black and brown discrimination?

Conservative commentators want to crucify Barack & Wright for these recent comments (which I'm ok with, because the comments were outrageous) but they many of these people made excuses for Trent Lott's racist remarks, said nothing when Bush showed up at Bob Jones University (which has policy prohibiting interracial relationships among its students), and Sean Hannity himself was blatantly sympathetic to Duane "Dog" Chapman, the bounty hunter who was caught using the N-word repeatedly against his son's black girlfriend.

I could provide you with many more examples, but I don't even think I need to. If you dont see the racial double standard in a lot of these conservative talk radio hosts and commentators, you probably haven't really been paying close attention. There is clearly a racist element in much of today's conservative movement-- certainly, at least, in the way it tolerates and makes excuses for racist behavior against people of color, while getting indignant at perceived racial unfairness against whites.
Perhaps I missed the element because I live in an area where we are dealing with illegal aliens in large scale. It is almost as if I am a minority now. I'm getting tired of it. I would go into detail, but I would be perceived as being racist when I am just wanting to point out the obvious.

I take Coulter as doing the same on this issue. JMO.
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