FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

There is absolutely NO context in which someone can say God **** America (my beloved country) and it will be okay. Sorry. Taking God's name in vain and cursing this country in the same breath--Wow. There was a time when that would get you charged with treason. I kind of miss those days.

Me too. Everyone was so rough on Kerry and Bush about their military carreer and Bush drinking. Obama has no Military carreer and is a self proclaimed pot head. The first Presidential candidate to admit using cocain. Here's what he had to say.

Long before the national media spotlight began to shine on every twist and turn of his life's journey, Barack Obama had this to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. . . . I got high [to] push questions of who I was out of my mind.

Is he going to turn to pot when things get rough in the White House.

I for one am afraid of this guy.

At least Clinton didn't inhale!!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Your sarcasm, aside... you're still missing the point.

The man's has multiple comments that are racist, anti-American, and in many cases blatantly false. But you're trying to imply that those who criticize him are doing so because ...
So that's that your conclusion? That's the best you can come up with? Please, bro. Spare us.

Of course race is part of the overall issue. No one denies that. But the topic of the thread doesn't need to be hijacked, by you or anyone else. The topic of the thread is that Fox supposedly lied. Fox did not lie, neither did the news media lie in reporting what the man said. A lot of Democrats, and Obama supporters especially like to bash Fox, but Fox is not the problem here. Jeremiah Wright is .

And yes, we can always talk about race relations in general. We know we have a ways to go for things to be where they need to be. However, my response to the original post (the topic at hand) is that 1... Fox didn't lie 2... Rev Wright has made similar and other more outrageous statements 3. its ridiculous to blame Fox for carrying a story that all the major news outlets were carrying.

I guess you realized you weren't able to refute those 3 simple points...
Because you decided to skip over the points I made (and the thread topic) and focus on talking about how "the average white person in this country hasn't even begun to understand the average black person's experience or point of view". That may well be true brother, but as I said before, that is a separate issue.

I guess you simply preferred not to respond to the points I had made regarding the issue . But jumping all over the place and getting into side issues, instead of the central issue, just just further makes it clear that even you realize that the original point of this thread is invalid.

The whole premise of the original point on this thread is logically invalid anyway. I guess you realize that, and that's why you want to complain about racism in general. Fine. Suit yourself then. It seems that those making excuses for Jeremiah Wright will say whatever they can to deflect from the outrageousness of his comments. And even if deep down they know he's wrong, they can always find a way to blame white America. I guess personal accountability doesn't matter any more. At least the defenders of Rev Wright obviously seem to think so.

Fox did what media does; they put out just enough of what he said to make it newsworthy. I have news for you. I heard apostolic preachers preaching that 9/11 was our own fault because of the things we have done overseas. I've gone to churches that were openly racist, with the pastor using the n word over the pulpit because "all his black friends knew he wasn't using it in a derogatory way". I know preachers that won't marry a black man to a white woman. The point I am making is that what this JW has said really isn't any different than so much of what I have already heard coming across apostolic pulpits. Where are the threads slamming those preachers? Where's the outrage over our own preachers doing some of the same things this JW has done? Why is this such a big deal now? Could it be because Barak Obama is a black man running for President and people in this country don't want to admit that they really don't want a black man to be their President, so they are doing anything and everything they can to discredit him?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

There is absolutely NO context in which someone can say God **** America (my beloved country) and it will be okay. Sorry. Taking God's name in vain and cursing this country in the same breath--Wow. There was a time when that would get you charged with treason. I kind of miss those days.

Sister, he used the word in context, so it's pretty tough to prove he used God's name in vain, was cussing, etc.


Main Entry: 1************
Pronunciation: \ˈdam\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ************ed; ************·ing \ˈda-miŋ\
Etymology: Middle English dampnen, from Anglo-French dampner, from Latin ************are, from ************um damage, loss, fine
Date: 13th century
transitive verb
1: to condemn to a punishment or fate; especially : to condemn to hell
2 a: to condemn vigorously and often irascibly for some real or fancied fault or defect <************ed the storm for their delay> b: to condemn as a failure by public criticism
3: to bring ruin on
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intransitive verb

[Rico]

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Me too. Everyone was so rough on Kerry and Bush about their military carreer and Bush drinking. Obama has no Military carreer and is a self proclaimed pot head. The first Presidential candidate to admit using cocain. Here's what he had to say.

Long before the national media spotlight began to shine on every twist and turn of his life's journey, Barack Obama had this to say about himself: "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. . . . I got high [to] push questions of who I was out of my mind.

Is he going to turn to pot when things get rough in the White House.

I for one am afraid of this guy.

At least Clinton didn't inhale!!

Yeah, RIGHT! Hehehehehe! I got a bridge for sale real cheap.

[Sam]

Well, to balance out the Pastor Wright comments, not all African American preachers are supporters of Barack Hussein Obama. Check out this guy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Rev Dooley

Man of integrity my eye! He is still racist and his comments in blaming America for what is happening is way out of line.

On what grounds were you able to categorically declare Wright as a racist? Have you known this man so well that you could stand and make such a declaration? Wright's premise was that our nation essentially reaped what it sowed. He outlined instances where our country terrorized other countries killing far more than were killed on our soil on 9/11. 9/11 was a national tragedy no one could negate that fact; however, blasting someone who voiced a different analysis of the situation should not be tolerated. Freedom of Speech was still a right of the citizenry of the US last time I checked.

His inflamatory rhetoric is no different than Farrakhan and their followers.
The bombing of Hiroshima is totally lame. Japan attacked us first.
What would Jesus do??? Would killing thousands of children ever be justified in the eyes of God???

We did not attack them.Iraq didn't attack the US yet we bombed and destroyed their infrastructure, displaced over two million civilians and killed hundreds of thousands more!

Our bombing of them was in response to their terrorism.
Because of our nation's actions many countries view the US as a terrorist state.

We called it "Pearl Harbor".
We as a country did not just decide to enslave people. Their own people in Africa SOLD them.
So, the Africans were to blame for 400 years of slavery in the US?

I agree that it was a travesty for anyone to purchase another person, but America wasn't the only buyer. Slaves were shipped to South America to many islands only to die on sugar plantations. No arguement.

Our attack on Hussein was a response to the terror that was being wrought on America
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or any affiliation with Al Qaeda...Bush and Cheney admitted that truth a year after they made the case that there was a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Anyone remember 911? Or has this already been forgotten by genuine americans? What??? No one has forgotten 9/11.

Mr Wright doesn't deserve the title of "integrity". Integrity would uphold truth while he is only trying to fan flames of anger towards America.
He did a good job in support of Iraq.
[B]The Iraq war was built on lies.[B]

Try telling those Iraqis who see their children begging on the streets in order to survive instead of attending school, the widow with her children living without electricity and running water, the father who found himself without his family, the families living apart in other countries and those buried in mass graves that they were better off today than before we invaded.

Overall, 47% say they approve of “attacks on US-led forces” (23% strongly). There are huge differences between ethnic groups. An extraordinary 88% of Sunnis approve, with 77% approving strongly. Forty-one percent of Shia approve as well, but just 9% strongly. Even 16% of Kurds approve (8% strongly). The poll was conducted for WorldPublicOpinion.org by the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and was fielded by KA Research Limited/D3 Systems, Inc. Polling was conducted January 2-5 with a nationwide sample of 1,150, which included an oversample of 150 Arab Sunnis (hereafter simply called Sunnis).

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Discerner

You are a racist bigot if you defend the words of this idiot.

That was HARSH.

I dont care what kind of context he stated this extremist separatist views in. This guy is the biggest racist and bigot I have ever seen. Did you see the interview with Shawn Hanity and Allan Combs?

This man is a disgrace to Christianity and our country. If he doesnt like it hear, I say we take up a collection and send him to the country of his choice and hear if he still says "God D##M america!

Watch the video again and learn not to throw around such hateful name calling...thanks.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

There is absolutely NO context in which someone can say God **** America (my beloved country) and it will be okay. Sorry. Taking God's name in vain and cursing this country in the same breath--Wow. There was a time when that would get you charged with treason. I kind of miss those days.

MB,

You had wrote above that you didn't apreciate him using God's name in vain. I have known that Jesus was the name of God, so I didn't think that Wright had used God's name in vain when he used GD in the context that he did in his sermon.

I would have to say that I personally wouldn't have been comfortable with my pastor using such language. Thank God for Holy Ghost filled pastors.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

MB,

You had wrote above that you didn't apreciate him using God's name in vain. I have known that Jesus was the name of God, so I didn't think that Wright had used God's name in vain when he used GD in the context that he did in his sermon.

I would have to say that I personally wouldn't have been comfortable with my pastor using such language. Thank God for Holy Ghost filled pastors.

The name of God may be "Jesus" as we know it. However, saying "GD", and even "bless God" violates the principle of "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain".

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

The name of God may be "Jesus" as we know it. However, saying "GD", and even "bless God" violates the principle of "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain".

Brother, this is one instance in which that combination of words were used properly and in context.