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Old 03-24-2008, 11:16 AM
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Re: FOX Lies!! Barrack ABM Pastor Wright

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Polls were showing that McCain and Hillary were closer to a tie and that in some polls McCain actually beat Hillary. But in nearly every poll prior to this issue Obama won hands down. This is the Repbulican attack machine at work.

They will attack any one and anything if it will secure their power. Nothing is sacred or left to be another's opinion or experience. Everything becomes subject to THEIR judgment and THEIR interpretation.
Man you must watch CNN. I know the republican party has its faults, but let your left leaning crowd run the country and see what we get. How does socialized medicine, higher taxes, more vote buying under the name of welfare, stronger government feel to you.

I am not afraid of Obama. These comments by his bigot mentor pastor will sink him.
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:19 AM
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Good points by this black preacher!
Good points by this black preacher!

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Obama missed a huge opportunity to reach out and connect with the broader evangelical, faith community. Many non-black, Bible believing Christians have questioned the orthodoxy of the Senator’s faith. Evangelicals are troubled by the senator’s position on abortion and traditional marriage.

Though brilliant on the surface, last week’s speech wrongly characterized the problem with his minister’s preaching as solely a problem of race. In my view this controversy is more a matter of personal honesty and faith. I agree with Ken Blackwell’s critique of liberation theology. He wrote the following statement last Tuesday, “Liberation Theology... is a belief system about political agendas, socialistic economic policy, and redistribution of wealth.”

The fact is that neither the Senator nor his pastor is qualified to solve this race question in our nation. At the risk of sounding impractical, let me remind everyone that racism is a spiritual problem. It is a matter of the heart, first of all. And because it is truly a spiritual problem, it will require the involvement of a unified, emotionally focused church to lead us toward racial reconciliation.

Harry R. Jackson Jr. is founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition as well as author of The Warriors Heart: Rules of Engagement for the Spiritual War Zone.

Very Good!!! This man is right right right!
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Good points by this black preacher!




Very Good!!! This man is right right right!
Yes he is!!!!!!!
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:21 AM
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Whatever, bro. Your logic is pathetic here.
Rather than properly criticizing bad behavior, instead you try to justify it by pointing out someone else's other bad behavior. Very, very weak.
I guess you've never heard of "two wrongs don't make a right".


Frankly, I think you're too emotional about this to really think with a clear mind on this issue.
Oh please. Don't confuse passion for being too emotional TRFrance. I don't get too involved in threads around here unless I think the topic is worth discussing, and racism is something I think is worth discussing
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:25 AM
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Isnt it amazing how members of an apostolic forum can defend racism and bigotry of the rev wrong? Unbelievable
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Old 03-24-2008, 11:26 AM
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“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day."


“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism."

You mean the comments from JW's sermon above? The short answer would be yes his comments were justifiable.

Then we really dont have a basis to communicate on this subject. If you thing the above comments are an accurate representation of the historic reality at the end of the second world war, then there is no basis for us to discuss this matter.

you are living in a fantasy world that doesnt match the historical record.
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I think some of his statements are over the top but we must remove the beam from our own eyes before trying to remove the mote out of the eyes of another.

The Republicans are terrified of facing Obama in a General Election...therefore they will stop at nothing to destroy his reputation before the eyes of the American people.

I think a preacher should be able to preach what they think. I'll tell you the SAME thing Wright told you...American will face the wrath of God for a host of sins and among them are her sins against entire people groups. When God judges nations he does so according to the full cup principle. One day America's cup will be full and the Lord will force her to drink his wrath.
...Pats CH on the head... its ok little fella, it'll be all right.
PS, Republicans dont want hillary elected president and will do anything to stop her... up to and including ending up with Barak as president.

PSS, the Republican "Attack Machine" will do anything reasonable to stop Barak as well.... because he is a liberal democrat...

But when you put a guy on TV and let him quote himself, that doesnt constitute a charictor assassination. Here in Sanesville, we call that suicide.
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Then we really dont have a basis to communicate on this subject. If you thing the above comments are an accurate representation of the historic reality at the end of the second world war, then there is no basis for us to discuss this matter.

you are living in a fantasy world that doesnt match the historical record.
his comments had no basis in reality at all, so right ferd, dt
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No double standard...for YEARS there were no people of color in magazines unless it was a Jesse Owens type. SO Mr. John H. Johnson founded Jet and Ebony. Nothing racist there...

Black History Month?! It was started by Carter Woodson, son of former slaves, who was disturbed to find the absence of Blacks in history books...if they were mentioned, it was in an inferior way, or sparingly, like George Washington Carver's accomplishments.

Black colleges?! It is because they couldn't be admitted into White schools.

Latino gatherings?! What is wrong with people of like heritage getting together?!

As for racism, is it alive and well YET today...again, my experience as a White woman in the Black community allowed me to see things first hand.

Are all things equal?! No way...

Is there racism on both sides?! You bet!!

But it's not just a "slavery is over...get over it" deal...it's about a 17 yr. old Apostolic girl being mistreated in a 7 Eleven...yes, in this century!!

It's about stuff you nor I can truly understand because we are not Black or Indian or Hispanic or Asian or of Middle Eastern descent.

I am not in favor of special treatment, but I am in favor of FAIR treatment...JMO...
Thank you Barb. I know you and I have butted heads in the past, but I am glad that you can see that racism is not just a "thing of the past". It's alive and well today. I know that I have experienced it firsthand because of being latino, even though I am as white skinned as they come. I've been denied housing, dealt with threats of crosses being burned in my front yard, looked down upon, accused of being part of the immigration problem in America; the list goes on and on. Anyone who think racism is a thing of the past in America doesn't have a clue.
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You're so right! This (JW story) is starting to be the "swift boat" story of this year's Presidential campaign.
If Barak Obama wasn't perceived as a threat we never would have heard of Mr. Wright.
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