FOX Lies!! Barack Obama Pastor Wright

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Rico

Sister, I don't have anything against that being our national anthem. I just thing it's dumb to sing and hold our hands over our heart while reciting the poa. I don't care if others do it. I just don't want to.

Hey, you are entitled to your opinion.

In my opinion, The Star Spangled Banner is a difficult song to sing but it is our "national anthem" so I will stand and place my hand over my heart and struggle through the words and tune.

We were taught the "Pledge of Allegiance" as long ago as I can remember in my early years in school. Later it was modified to add the words "under God" and I some times have difficulty knowing where they fit in. In my opinion, the flag, whether made in China or wherever, is a symbol of our country. I have no problem standing, placing my hand over my heart and reciting the Pledge. We pledge to the flag as a symbol but also to "the republic for which it stands."

I do thank God for this country and that He in His grace and mercy allowed me to be born here and not somewhere else. Some of my ancestors (American Indians) were done wrong, slaughtered, and killed. Others (Irish) were strongly discriminated against. I still think the date of Custer's defeat at the Battle of the Big Horn is a great cause for celebration and I used to "boo" when as a child I heard the bugle sounding a charge and the calvary came over the hill to defeat the Indians.

This country gives Jehovah's Witnesses the freedom to refrain from participating in the Pledge because they look at it the same way early Christians looked upon offering a pinch of incense and saying "Caesar is Lord."

[Rico]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Lawdamercy!!
Miss Brattified is killin' em!!

Beating 'em down, even with one half of her brain tied behind her back, just to make it fair!

If you have a problem with me thinking it's dumb to sing that song and say the poa with my hand held over my heart, then it's your problem, not mine. It's not going to change my mind.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Rico

I hear what you're saying, but to each his own.

Of course you have the freedom to not partake in those traditions.

However, I would think that a man running for President of the United States of America would make sure he had all his traditional American ducks in a row. It shows that he is either too numb-skulled to realize how many people care about the "little things", or he is deliberately stating that the little things are unimportant to him.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Of course you have the freedom to not partake in those traditions.

However, I would think that a man running for President of the United States of America would make sure he had all his traditional American ducks in a row. It shows that he is either too numb-skulled to realize how many people care about the "little things", or he is deliberately stating that the little things are unimportant to him.

What if he doesn't like apple pie? That's an American tradition. Is he being unpatriotic by not eating it? The whole point is that singing the na and reciting the poa with hand held over one's heart no more makes anyone patriotic than someone not doing it makes them unpatriotic.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I know a lot of kids who think its dumb to say "please" when they ask for the potatoes at the dinner table. But etiquette and manners and traditions are important--to me, anyway. (And our children will be taught the same things we hold dear.)

Good post Miss Brattperson.

It is this kind of lack of respect for ones country, it's history, and all those who sacrificed to make it (despite all of it's flaws) the best place on earth that is part of what is wrong with our country today.

Kids are raised hearing everything in their life torn down verbally from their pastor, church to their country. No wonder things are like they are.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Rico

What if he doesn't like apple pie? That's an American tradition. Is he being unpatriotic by not eating it? The whole point is that singing the na and reciting the poa with hand held over one's heart no more makes anyone patriotic than someone not doing it makes them unpatriotic.

YES!!!!

I disagree.

And if he is served apple pie ala mode, he should eat it thankfully and pretend to like it even if he doesn't. And thank the cook. That's just being polite.

What he does at his own dinner table is his business, but what he does in public is everyone's bizness. Being critiqued and analyzed is par for the course. Politicians know that--or at least, their advisers do. So there's no room for a slip up.

Speaking of banana peels....Hillary Clinton's slip up about the sniper fire in Bosnia--now that ought to be a whole new thread. LOL!!! That was just plain old FUNNY. How could she NOT know there would be a record of that event which would reveal her exaggeration *cough* lie?????

[Sam]

a good story about an American flag made in Viet Nam can be found at:
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/soapbox/mccain.asp

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Rico

If you have a problem with me thinking it's dumb to sing that song and say the poa with my hand held over my heart, then it's your problem, not mine. It's not going to change my mind.

Gee.Sensitive aren't we?
Nobody's trying to change your mind, bro. Do your thing.

You're free to express your feelings, and we're free to express if we agree or disagree.
That's all.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

LOL!!!

What do you think about Project Chaos?

I think it's pretty ingenious actually.I think Obama will still end up with the nomination but Project Chaos will just make it a more difficult process... which is good for the conservative side.

Project Chaos may end up damaging Obama enough to help McCain win in November... a thought that seemed almost unthinkable 6-12 months ago.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

...
Speaking of banana peels....Hillary Clinton's slip up about the sniper fire in Bosnia--now that ought to be a whole new thread. LOL!!! That was just plain old FUNNY. How could she NOT know there would be a record of that event which would reveal her exaggeration *cough* lie?????

That's just a small part of her revisionist history (lies) about her political accomplishments.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

YES!!!!

I disagree.

And if he is served apple pie ala mode, he should eat it thankfully and pretend to like it even if he doesn't. And thank the cook. That's just being polite.

What he does at his own dinner table is his business, but what he does in public is everyone's bizness. Being critiqued and analyzed is par for the course. Politicians know that--or at least, their advisers do. So there's no room for a slip up.

Speaking of banana peels....Hillary Clinton's slip up about the sniper fire in Bosnia--now that ought to be a whole new thread. LOL!!! That was just plain old FUNNY. How could she NOT know there would be a record of that event which would reveal her exaggeration *cough* lie?????

This is what I like about yakkin with you Sister. We can disagree and still be cool with each other. As usual, you made good points but haven't convinced me to change my evil ways! BTW, I already started a thread about Clinton's "misstatement" (lie in any one else's book).