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[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

You'd vote for a politician who would impose Biblical Law following a conservative interpretation of Historic Christianity in the US? Bro...he'd have our churches closed and prosecute us as heretics. The goal of the Dominionist is to bring government, church, and society into compliance with historic Christian teaching. I.E. Radical Fundamentalist Trinitarianism.

You'd vote for something with the titles "Conservative" or "Christian" in it even though you don't know what it is. That's absolutley scary.

Bro. Ferd...do you believe some folks are psychologically brain washed to swallow some buzz terms without question and reject others? Kinda like "newspeak" was used in the novel Big Brother?

I'm increasingly thinking this is the case.

You sure seem to have problems with the OT God.

[ChristopherHall]

I'd take living in a free and liberal society over the dominionist vision any day. It's like comparing where one would like to live, Medieval Europe during the Inquisitions or modern Amsterdam? I’d take Amsterdam.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I'd take living in a free and liberal society over the dominionist vision any day. It's like comparing where one would like to live, Medieval Europe during the Inquisitions or modern Amsterdam? I’d take Amsterdam.

You mis-represent what most 'dominionists' believe. BTW, the 'movement' is not a monolith group.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

You'd vote for a politician who would impose Biblical Law following a conservative interpretation of Historic Christianity in the US? Bro...he'd have our churches closed and prosecute us as heretics. The goal of the Dominionist is to bring government, church, and society into compliance with historic Christian teaching. I.E. Radical Fundamentalist Trinitarianism.

You'd vote for something with the titles "Conservative" or "Christian" in it even though you don't know what it is. That's absolutley scary.

Bro. Ferd...do you believe some folks are psychologically brain washed to swallow some buzz terms without question and reject others? Kinda like "newspeak" was used in the novel Big Brother?

I'm increasingly thinking this is the case.

see, here is the difference between you and I chris. you think the words
"Conserivite and Liberal" are lables placed on people.

I see them as discriptive terms that explain what an indivual is doing as a politician.

if you are a conservitive that means you are seeking ways to get government out of my life and pocket. if you are a liberal that means you are trying to find ways to get government in my pocket and to tell me how to live my life.

so to answer your question? I think all liberals have brain washed to think that
1. Government is the answer
2. They arent responsible for themselves
3. Government is supposed to take care of all our boo boo's
4. Everybody else owes them something.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

I'd take living in a free and liberal society over the dominionist vision any day. It's like comparing where one would like to live, Medieval Europe during the Inquisitions or modern Amsterdam? I’d take Amsterdam.

You arent my kind of liberal. Reformed Dave is.

Classical liberalism (also called laissez-faire liberalism, or, in much of the world, simply called liberalism) is a doctrine stressing individual freedom and limited government. This includes the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, Montesquieu, Voltaire, Thomas Paine and others.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

You sure seem to have problems with the OT God.

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

You mis-represent what most 'dominionists' believe. BTW, the 'movement' is not a monolith group.

Not really. I just have a problem with how Dominionists pigeonhole the OT God with their narrow and extremist interpretation bent on their ascendancy to political power, conquest, and agenda to impose Biblical law using the force of Government. Dominionism is the Christian equivalent of Islamic Wahhabism.

Both (Dominionism and Wahhabism) are a threat to liberty and freedom of religion, the seed bed of true Christianity.

Gary North, a leading Dominionist author and theologian wrote….

So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God. – Gary North, "The Intellectual Schizophrenia of the New Christian Right" in Christianity and Civilization: The Failure of the American Baptist Culture, No. 1 (Spring, 1982), p. 25.

Regarding Democracy, Rushdoony, a preeminent dominionist wrote,

The chuch today has fallen prey to the heresy of democracy. – R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law (Nutley, NJ: Craig Press, 1973), p. 747.

Do you align yourself with these individuals?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by ChristopherHall

Not really. I just have a problem with how Dominionists pigeonhole the OT God with their narrow and extremist interpretation bent on their ascendancy to political power, conquest, and agenda to impose Biblical law using the force of Government. Dominionism is the Christian equivalent of Islamic Wahhabism.

Both (Dominionism and Wahhabism) are a threat to liberty and freedom of religion, the seed bed of true Christianity.

Gary North, a leading Dominionist author and theologian wrote….



Regarding Democracy, Rushdoony, a preeminent dominionist wrote,


Do you align yourself with these individuals?

There are areas of agreement with North and Rushdoony and of disagreement. Over all I agree with their basic premises taken in context.

[ChristopherHall]

Rushdoony, also wrote,

All who are content with a humanistic law system and do not strive to replace it with Biblical law are guilty of idolatry. They have forsaken the covenant of their God, and they are asking us to serve other gods. They are thus idolaters, and are, in our generation, when our world is idolatrous and our states also, to be objects of missionary activity. They must be called out of their idolatry into the service of the living God.
"Christian" man is thus doubly a sinner when he is antinomian and despises God's law: he has denied the law in Adam, and now, with consummate profanity, he denies it in the name of Christ. He thus doubly denies the everlasting covenant, and doubly transgresses the laws. – R. J. Rushdoony, Law and Society: Volume II of the Institutes of Biblical Law (Vallecito, CA: Ross House Books, 1982), pp. 468, 316.

Gary North also wrote,

The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant--baptism and holy communion--must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel. - Gary North, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1989), p. 87. [/I]

How am I mischaracterizing Dominionist theology? Need I educate you on what you profess to believe?

[DividedThigh]

this is for chris hall, look you are acting like a big whiner now, making fun of the president certainly makes you better, to bad you arent near or i would take you up on that and come and bop you on the head, by the way i dont remember making fun of you being a kid and all, good grief, do all libs always stoop to making fun and calling names, dt

[ChristopherHall]

ReformedDave...I'd say you're associated with an entire movement led by men who are...anti-American.