Chris, you own more bull than a Texas cattle rancher.
I was feeling a bit blue today, but then I hopped over here and read your posts, and couldn't help feeling happier knowing that no matter how bad my day is, at least I'm not you! jk
So you don't believe that the Bible has laws requiring the rights to glean, the poor tithe, and laws regarding land ownership to ensure that national wealth isn't aggregated into the hands of a very few? Give me your address. I’ll mail you a black magic marker and you can blot out all those Scriptures so that your bible reflects your economic philosophy.
Bro…I’m glad I’m not you and that I both know and believe my Bible. You have your politics. I have the Word of God. LOL
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
Ferd, I don't believe in any free rides either. But I do believe the bus should stop for those who can't keep up and jump aboard.
I'm all for welfare reform. Stronger work, education, and training requirements. I'm also in favor of common sense caps on how long benefits can be received.
your first sentance stands at odds with a number of comments you have made.
Chris, we AFFers may be adicts but we have memories. shall we review your words concerning your journey? Your FILs health issues? You and your wifes trials?
Sir you have turned to the government and everyone here has seen you say so.
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So you don't believe that the Bible has laws requiring the rights to glean, the poor tithe, and laws regarding land ownership to ensure that national wealth isn't aggregated into the hands of a very few? Give me your address. I’ll mail you a black magic marker and you can blot out all those Scriptures so that your bible reflects your economic philosophy.
Bro…I’m glad I’m not you and that I both know and believe my Bible. You have your politics. I have the Word of God. LOL
Chris, we've been over this again and again.
Modern day America is not a replacement for Old Testament Israel. You do indeed have the Bible...your problem is that you can't make it say what you want, so you twist a little bit here and little bit there to apply liberal logic too it.
Consider this: Old Testament Israel was at first governed by God....when they started clamoring for more involvement by men (in the form of king's) God saw it as a rejection of Him. Liberalism is not the panacea for the world's problems...it is, in fact, a rejection of God in favor of government intervention. The church, not the government, is God's new chosen vessel to provide for those in need.
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some have greatness thrust upon 'em."
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Twelfth Night (II, v, 156-159)
You have worked against the obstacles placed in your life to make a difference - - wish everyone would GET THAT!!!!
I too have overcome the obstacles. I was raised in a single parent household. My father used to beat my mother within an inch of her life and abandoned us. My mother turned to welfare for short term assistance. Once stable she tried to work because she didn’t believe in welfare. When she started working all medical, housing subsidies, and food stamps were cut. Overnight our bills (and we had next to nothing, not even a car) were far greater than her income. She sought help and she was repeatedly told, “Don’t be lazy, get another job.” So she did. While she was working two jobs I got mixed up in the wrong crowd and started running the streets. Mom was never home. I got into drugs and some things I’m very ashamed of. My mom realized that I needed a parent at home so she quit working and returned to welfare to raise me and reign me in. The adjustment of being governed by a parent led to many fights and confrontations. We were evicted from our apartment for fighting. My mother and I were then homeless. For three days we slept under a slide at Brown St. Park in Dayton Ohio. My mom then broke down and took us to a shelter and they referred us to an organization called The Other Place. They connected us with a Methodist church network that provided temporary shelter and a place to stay. My mother continued sinking deeper into depression. As we left the shelter she would go and apply for work and she was never hired. One person said that it was because we didn’t have an address. She broke down one night. I was younger and can’t remember everything she said but I remember how she said we had no hope. She met this guy some place while I was at school. His name as Cecil. He frequented the bar scene on a local strip called the Oregon District. He was into drugs and soon my mother was caught up and he used her…she became his “money maker”. I don’t think I need to elaborate. I watched her plead for help and rely on shelters that were full and charity that told us to come back. She tried working out of the gutter and realized that she had to choose working two jobs and loosing me or staying on the system and trying to parent me. Then she and Cecil had a falling out over some money that came up missing. I thought he was going to kill us. Mom took me and we left, we stayed the rest of that night at the Greyhound Bus Station in Downtown Dayton. I dropped out of school. I was thankful to be away from Cecil because he was very abusive. My mother finally pleaded her way into a local shelter called St. Vincent. They said I was too young to be put into the male area and too old to be in the ladies area so they put us up in a room at the EconoLodge off Dixie. She worked with some case workers who got us into Parkside emergency housing, a black ghetto. I seemed to do well there and had plenty of friends. But a few were dealers. I dabbled. Then my mother found more permanent housing at DeSoto Bass Courts (another black ghetto). This is where I was shot at twice and attacked in the middle of the intersection at Germantown and Lakeview. Cecil then started trying to come back around. One night things got heated and I stood up to protect my mom, I took a knife and stabbed him twice in front of 84 Benning Place. The courts said I had to get back into school and walk a fine line. This entire period is like some nightmare. Things I’m not able to even mention here.
So I tested up into high school and started going to Colonel White HS. Here I got into JROTC and began doing really well in my studies. My mom had taken me to an Apostolic church when I was younger. We attended for a while but my mom took us out because she was told that it was a cult. Well, while on my way home from school walking through “The Bass” a brother named Chester Matthews got an upset stomach and stepped outside, virtually right in my path. He stopped me and asked me if I knew Jesus. I told him that I had been filled with the Holy Ghost and he invited me to church…the very same church my mother had taken me to! Well I visited a few times but it was hard seeing that I didn’t always have a ride. I graduated from school and got a car. I then started going to the Lighthouse a little more regularly and even took my high school sweetheart with me and she got saved. Now we’re married and have a wonderful family who’s serving the Lord.
I joined the military and have worked as a factory mechanical assembler, Combat Medic, a CNA, a Therapeutic Programming Assistant for the handicapped, a help desk technician, and a financial account reconciler for the city government in the departments of Housing and Water.
The whole time I was getting back on my feet my mom lived in the Bass and was receiving welfare assistance. The charities only gave such temporary relief it didn’t make any real impact. But the system…the system provided a roof and food for us. I remember thanking God for it.
And brothers and sisters…I worked my way out…but the system helped us more than you will ever know. As a young man who watched his mom spend food stamps you paid taxes to provide…let me say…thank you. I’m am a life that made it.
But I know of many others who don’t have any place to turn. So I am outspoken about it. Until you’ve been on the street and needed the help desperately I don’t think you can understand what it means to those who are just praying to survive.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
Modern day America is not a replacement for Old Testament Israel. You do indeed have the Bible...your problem is that you can't make it say what you want, so you twist a little bit here and little bit there to apply liberal logic too it.
Consider this: Old Testament Israel was at first governed by God....when they started clamoring for more involvement by men (in the form of king's) God saw it as a rejection of Him. Liberalism is not the panacea for the world's problems...it is, in fact, a rejection of God in favor of government intervention. The church, not the government, is God's new chosen vessel to provide for those in need.
hey bro bishop1, it is kind of like with my kids, i have to keep tellin them over and over and over, and over, lol,dt
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