What does having the Holy Spirit mean?

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

I agree with you, the Holy Ghost was working in my life but not IN me. Not until I was baptized in the Spirit. The Spirit led me to a place of repentance without being indwelt by the Spirit. The Spirit was WITH me but not IN me. This is where we don't agree.

What do you think about Acts 8 and the conversion of the Samaritans? Why did they send for the apostles to pray for the new believers to receive the Holy Spirit if they received the Spirit upon faith? Why did Paul say ask the disciples at Ephesus in Acts 19 "Have ye received the Holy Ghost SINCE ye believed?" if they received the Spirit upon faith?

An interestring study on the word "recieved". Our one english word recieved is the word the translators use for 18 different woords in the original text's.

The Samaritans "recieved(lambano) the holy Spirit.

This word lambano gives the menaing of manifesting objectvively what one allready possesses.

Because the UNBELIEVNG Jews could not Believe that a Samaritan dog could be saved God "fell upon or came upon" the Samaritans and manifested a gift of the spirit thru them. The gift of tongues to convince the unbeleivers that Samaritans could be saved and have Chris within their lives.

Remeber Paul said tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe but to them that believe not.

Tongues were a sign that someone had become a believer a " few" times in Acts. This in no way establishes that tongues will always accompany conversion.

There are many other places in Acts where we read of people coming to faith with no mention of tongues.