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04-11-2008, 10:17 PM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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I see a lot about the Amish (or possibly more so the Mennonites) way of life that has a lot of wisdom in it and builds on a simpler way of living that I, personally, have a yearning for within myself.
But... to answer the question posed by this thread I would have to know if being "Amish" requires any doctrinal stands that the typical oneness church goer could not , in good conscience, adhere to.
Without knowing whether any of these issues exist I would not have sufficient information to properly answer the question being posed.
From my current (and admittedly limited) understanding I have a great deal of respect for the Amish/Mennonite ways of life.
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As do I brother. I guess one of the virtues that I was taught (as an Old Order Mennonite) was not to judge those who are less conservative than us. A conservative - even separated lifstyle need not go hand in hand with judgementalism.
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04-11-2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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Is that all you had to say? Somehow when I saw this thread I invisioned you defending your people alot better than that.
I've always admired the Amish way of living very much and concidered taking on the lifestyle. It didn't happen but I did seriously think about it. It's quite an interesting way of life, and most days I think it would be better than how we live. Now if I could just figure out how to keep my technology that I like while getting rid of the technogoly that I don't want, I'd be alright. Come to think about, there really isn't that much technology that I like, I just use more than I like out of neccessity.
But can an Apostolic become Amish? I don't see why not, many are barely not Amish as it is anyway. Then of course there are the Amish that became Apostolic like Brother Steven Hoover.
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Fascinating that when we are considering the Apostolics turning Amish the only thing we tend to see are the dress code similarities and so we say, "yes, sure they can".
We don't even seem to remember that the Amish are Trinitarian believers, that they don't even baptize by immersion, let alone in Jesus' name. And I'm not sure how they would feel about speaking in tongues. How about it Steven? Would they go for it?
The interesting thing is that because of the similarities in dress, we want to accept and be accepted by them. But we don't want to cut the same slack to other Trinitarian believers who don't have the same dress codes.
Ooooo boy! Am I in trouble now? Now that I've thrown in my  and  just a little bit, I have to head for bed. Keith has solo and ensemble contest tomorrow morning early! (imagine that! On a SATURDAY!! Who ever scheduled something so stupidly as that!) Have a fun night, folks.
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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Fascinating that when we are considering the Apostolics turning Amish the only thing we tend to see are the dress code similarities and so we say, "yes, sure they can".
We don't even seem to remember that the Amish are Trinitarian believers, that they don't even baptize by immersion, let alone in Jesus' name. And I'm not sure how they would feel about speaking in tongues. How about it Steven? Would they go for it?
The interesting thing is that because of the similarities in dress, we want to accept and be accepted by them. But we don't want to cut the same slack to other Trinitarian believers who don't have the same dress codes.
Ooooo boy! Am I in trouble now? Now that I've thrown in my  and  just a little bit, I have to head for bed. Keith has solo and ensemble contest tomorrow morning early! (imagine that! On a SATURDAY!! Who ever scheduled something so stupidly as that!) Have a fun night, folks.
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You bring up a very good point!
I have actually been wanting to explore this and perhaps even start a thread along those lines... (not so much the Amish aspect) ...
I think I will.
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04-11-2008, 10:36 PM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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I hadn't read that before, quite fascinating.
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04-12-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
I understand that the origin of this thread was in jest but I would like to throw some light as well on it. We recently held the Amish Mennonite conference at our church here in Massillon. We had about 5 former Amish families there telling us about their conversion from Amish to Apostolic. It was wonderful to hear their stories. One man told of how he lost his house his job his family for truth. We had a young man there the following Sunday morning that recieved the Holy Ghost. There is a great yearning in the Amish Mennonite community for more of God.
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04-12-2008, 09:26 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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I understand that the origin of this thread was in jest but I would like to throw some light as well on it. We recently held the Amish Mennonite conference at our church here in Massillon. We had about 5 former Amish families there telling us about their conversion from Amish to Apostolic. It was wonderful to hear their stories. One man told of how he lost his house his job his family for truth. We had a young man there the following Sunday morning that recieved the Holy Ghost. There is a great yearning in the Amish Mennonite community for more of God.
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That's GREAT! Praise GOD!
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04-12-2008, 09:28 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
Bro. Hoover,
Could you perhaps enlighten us as to why the Amish and Mennonite don't baptize by immersion? Also, could you explain their justification of baptism by pouring?
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04-12-2008, 09:35 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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Bro. Hoover,
Could you perhaps enlighten us as to why the Amish and Mennonite don't baptize by immersion? Also, could you explain their justification of baptism by pouring?
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I have had several discussions along these lines with church elders. Their response is that they can and have baptised by immersion if one is convinced that is most Biblical. (I have not seen it)
Obviously they believe it is scriptural and do have a few references.
The bigger problem is they promised allegience that occurs at baptism in the Amish and OOM churches. It is not only allegience to God, but also the "church". This is then used against them if they later leave - especially among the Amish.
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04-12-2008, 09:38 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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Originally Posted by Blaylock
I understand that the origin of this thread was in jest but I would like to throw some light as well on it. We recently held the Amish Mennonite conference at our church here in Massillon. We had about 5 former Amish families there telling us about their conversion from Amish to Apostolic. It was wonderful to hear their stories. One man told of how he lost his house his job his family for truth. We had a young man there the following Sunday morning that recieved the Holy Ghost. There is a great yearning in the Amish Mennonite community for more of God.
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That is wonderful.
It should also be noted that there are a number of Amish and a perhaps a few Mennonites that have remained with the ultra conservative lifestyle after being immersed IJN and recieving the Spirit evidenced by speaking in tongues.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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04-12-2008, 10:17 AM
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Re: Can an Apostolic become Amish?
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That is wonderful.
It should also be noted that there are a number of Amish and a perhaps a few Mennonites that have remained with the ultra conservative lifestyle after being immersed IJN and recieving the Spirit evidenced by speaking in tongues.
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The Kings are one for example from Virginia.
ON the baptism...From what I have been told by former Amish is that their method of baptism is more for a confirmation into the church than a salvational issue.
History of the Anabaptist tell us that the sprinkling and infant baptism started as a way for the RCC to get more taxpayers paying taxes. What better way to get more taxes than to have them start at birth.
This is a tradition that they keep from their roots.
We also have a former Amish/Mennonite couple in our assembly. They are our Sunday School administrators.
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