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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Oh ... 'round.
Slayin' 3 step dragons and legalist big bad wolves.
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Not sure how I should respond to that...
...but, it's nice to see your avatar again. I missed her!
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05-17-2008, 09:04 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
Well DA, I have never felt the move of he HG in a liberal church, not to say that it doesn't happen; but I have felt the HG in holiness churches.
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05-17-2008, 09:06 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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Well DA, I have never felt the move of he HG in a liberal church, not to say that it doesn't happen; but I have felt the HG in holiness churches.
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Maybe your eye is on men ... or the women?
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05-17-2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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Well DA, I have never felt the move of he HG in a liberal church, not to say that it doesn't happen; but I have felt the HG in holiness churches.
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OK now this may not be following the discussion entirely...
but how/what I "feel" is not usually related to locality...
Nor do I place any large emphasis on any feeling whatsoever.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-17-2008, 09:07 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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Not sure how I should respond to that...
...but, it's nice to see your avatar again. I missed her!
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I miss her too ... she'll be in H-town next week ...
I feel the Holy Ghost ...
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05-17-2008, 09:08 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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OK now this may not be following the discussion entirely...
but how/what I "feel" is not usually related to locality...
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I've felt the move of the Holy Ghost in my shower and on a NYC subway.
Go figure.
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05-17-2008, 09:10 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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I miss her too ... she'll be in H-town next week ...
I feel the Holy Ghost ...
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BLASPHEMY!
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05-17-2008, 09:12 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
How did the Holy Ghost move on Azusa Street ... filling some of our Oneness pioneers during this time period ... with all that trimmed hair and bling-bling and w/ *gasp* trinitarians?
Must've been an amnesty of sorts.
Tax amnesty ... Illegal alien amnesty ...
Holy Ghost amnesty ???
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05-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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How did the Holy Ghost move on Azusa Street ... filling some of our Oneness pioneers during this time period ... with all that trimmed hair and bling-bling and w/ *gasp* trinitarians?
Must've been an amnesty of sorts.
Tax amnesty ... Illegal alien amnesty ...
Holy Ghost amnesty ???
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The Holy Ghost fell on Holiness Methodists, read your history.
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05-17-2008, 09:35 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic
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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted
Most certainly it does. The True anointing (not personal talents and abilities) will not flow is there is such sin in the church, not talking here about visitors either.
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WholeHearted, someone asked a question related to the jewelry question on this thread:---> Help on Ezekiel 16
I was hoping that someone who was anti-jewelry would make a comment, but no one did.
If you wouldn't mind commenting on the issue over there, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts...
As a matter of fact... I'll just make it a bit easier for you, and post the words here from that thread [below]. Your thoughts please... (or any other anti-jewelry believer who wants to comment, feel free):
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Wants some input on this.
Ezekiel 16:1 - 14 (KJV)
1 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. 4 And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all. 5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.
6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live. 7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare. 8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. 9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I thoroughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. 10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers’ skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. 11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. 12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. 13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thoudidst prosper into a kingdom. 14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
If it's literal then God himself provided the jewelry and sure would cause a problem for the teaching today, IMO.
If it's symbolic, then why would God use sinful adornments to describe the glories of his people?? Even the church is spoken as a bride adorned for husband.
Isa 61:10
10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
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Jer 2:32
32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.
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Why would he compare ropes of righteousness to a bridegroom with ornaments and bride her jewels, if so sinful?
for the record, I'm a no jewelry man, not even a wrist ring that tells time, but I don't know how to explain why God himself says he decked the saints with jewelry and such...... |
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