Charismatic Apostolic

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

When I hear and see statements such as this one from Wholehearted...it almost makes me ashamed that I was every identified with such a group. Why would anyone want what you have, be like you are, or desire to be a part of what you are a part of.

Makes me think of the whited sepluchres, the pharisees, and land that was covered in dead frogs until it stunk...

Rhoni although I understand what you are saying we have to remember that NOT all are like this person. That really is ones persons opinion. Now mind you birds of a feather do flock together but I think that runs a little more true at the local level and gets a little less as you move out. Please please remember lets not clump all into the same boat.

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and then I told our people unforgivness is like gangrene. (Gangrene is not a disease but the end result of gradual tissue loss, resulting in progressive decay or necrosis (tissue death from suffocation) of part of a limb due to insufficient, or cut off, oxygen-rich and nutrient-dense blood supply.)
Unfaithfulness is wrong. Revenge is bad. But the worst part of all is that, without forgiveness, bitterness is all that is left.
If we are not careful we become to holy for heaven...and we judge others and our spirits become hard and bitter and we begin to think we are the only ones that will walk through the pearly gates...how wrong we are!

"In the final analysis, forgiveness is an act of faith. By forgiving another, I am trusting that God is a better justice-maker than I am. By forgiving, I release my own right to get even and leave all issues of fairness for God to work out. I leave in God's hands the scales that must balance justice and mercy." [Yancey p.83]

How I wish I had learned that lesson many years before I did. Many of us need to try and live more by this way of thinking.

Thank you Sis Janice Alvear, great thoughts.

[Sister Alvear]

Blessing to you my friend...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

That song was done by Porter Wagoner.I have heard him do it,but I can't recall the name of it right now.

My Mom had an album by Little Jimmy Dickens where he did a great version of it.

[Joelel]

There are three basic groups of believers.

1) Those who believe for a time and then fall away.They will not have life.

2)Those who try hard to be as perfect as they can,they bring forth fruit to perfection 30,40,50,60 % and so on fruit to perfection and will have life as a guest.

3)There will be those who bring forth 100 % fruit to perfection,they will have life as the bride and enter the kingdom (rule) with Jesus.

There is a song I like to sing,30 fold,60 fold,100 fold,oh my Jesus I want to be in the bride.Yes many not so perfect will be saved as a guest,but I want to be in the bride,yes a 100 fold fruit to perfection.

Luke8:[11] Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.[12] Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.[13] They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.[14] And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.[15] But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience


Math.13:[18] Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.[19] When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.[20] But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;[21] Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.[22] He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.[23] But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Well if he is honest he will not be back brother. He just came here to spit out his venom...I guess the dog ran away or died and he had nothing to kick around so he came here with his rank attitude....

And for the record and thankfully NOT all that believe in standards are like WH.

for the record, i believe similar things as whole hearted. However, i believe in a little more tolerance, all of that standards stuff is relationship, not salvation.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Jason

for the record, i believe similar things as whole hearted. However, i believe in a little more tolerance, all of that standards stuff is relationship, not salvation.

I don't think anyone cares that Wholehearted believes in all the strict rules; he's entitled to believe whatever he feels is right from the Word. However, no one likes the attitude that he showed on here.

So....thank you for having a decent attitude even with those that you may not agree with!

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by Sherri

I don't think anyone cares that Wholehearted believes in all the strict rules; he's entitled to believe whatever he feels is right from the Word. However, no one likes the attitude that he showed on here.

So....thank you for having a decent attitude even with those that you may not agree with!

Can we interpret the Word whichever way we want to fit what we want to believe? If I want a assembly where the men all have short hair, combed to the side, and the women all have uncut hair in buns, and everyone wears suit jackets and look all formally cookie cutter, can I justify that with verses on modesty, unity and the like? Or have I become a lord over GOD's heritage, have I overstepped my bounds as an overseer of GOD's flock (if I should one day be an elder/pastor)?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

SHE COOKED HER CAT???? Oh, my, I don't know if I could have ate her cat! BTW, how did it taste?

Cat tastes like chicken...Just do like I do put hotsause on everything!

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Can we interpret the Word whichever way we want to fit what we want to believe? If I want a assembly where the men all have short hair, combed to the side, and the women all have uncut hair in buns, and everyone wears suit jackets and look all formally cookie cutter, can I justify that with verses on modesty, unity and the like? Or have I become a lord over GOD's heritage, have I overstepped my bounds as an overseer of GOD's flock (if I should one day be an elder/pastor)?

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Every pastor has to study the Word and seek God and interpret it according to what he feels like God is showing him. That's his responsibility to his flock. If he is only teaching things out of peer pressure from an organization, then it's wrong. But lots of men sincerely believe these things and if so, then it is their responsibility to teach them to their people. All pastors should stay open to hearing from God though, just in case they are in error and He wants to reveal something new to them!