I am sure it is hard for some pastors to decide who gets paid and who doesn't. To honestly be fair it should be all get paid or none get paid. But that can't always be done, so I guess you pay the ones who put more hours into it.
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I am sure it is hard for some pastors to decide who gets paid and who doesn't. To honestly be fair it should be all get paid or none get paid. But that can't always be done, so I guess you pay the ones who put more hours into it.
I think they pay those they value the most...priorities are set by the Pastor of Church Boards. The most hours put into most churches are voluntary laborers.
If a church values music above other ministries, then that is where their money will go.
If they value outreach and community services they will pay those people; i.e., counselors and Bus ministry people.
If they value the Word and having Bible College to train ministers then they will hire good Bible Teachers...
Like I said the people who work in areas targeted as priorites by the church boards and/or Pastors will be the ones paid.
What you have to consider also: You get what you pay for. If you have a voluntary music staff then you have to settle for mediocre talent and less coordiantion of music with ministry.
If you have a voluntary assistant Pastor then he can show up if he can get off work...if not then you can't get things accomplished.
If you don't pay counselors then they will take their services elsewhere. Who wants to be burdened with other people's problems everytime you go to church unless you are the preacher's wife and have no choice!
For instance: A fair wage for a decent size church, 120-250, for the Pastor would be 45-50% of the tithes or a base salary of $50,000.00 plus benefits.
I think they pay those they value the most...priorities are set by the Pastor of Church Boards. The most hours put into most churches are voluntary laborers.
If a church values music above other ministries, then that is where their money will go.
If they value outreach and community services they will pay those people; i.e., counselors and Bus ministry people.
If they value the Word and having Bible College to train ministers then they will hire good Bible Teachers...
Like I said the people who work in areas targeted as priorites by the church boards and/or Pastors will be the ones paid.
In our church the only ones who get paid are the ones who are Full-Time. Yes, it would be nice to get paid even for doing it part time but our church can't afford it at this time so I understand.
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I am talking about churches who have the money to adequately support other ministries and want free workers. I believe the tithes are to support the ministries of the church, not the Pastor only.
But that's not what you said.
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
If the church can't adequately pay a person for their services they are not large enough yet for that particular ministry.
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Do most churches "pay out" reasonably for their staff help?
Or do most do the "here's a small token of our appreciation" poverty pay?
Are there pastors out there that soak up most, if not all, available wages-salaries, then are reluctant to pay out for other "needed" ministry help in their church?
Pastors, what are your usual guidelines in these types of situations?
How do you determine how many volunteer positions to paid positions?
How many young ministry couples are forced to leave their current church situations to find sufficient wages to meet end's meat?
Of course, there will always be smaller churches that actually cannot pay their ministry help due to their small size and that would be considered acceptable.
In another thread, Deacon's Blues is a fine example of a person willing to spread out available resources to pay additional ministry help.
This will most likely stir up a hornet's nest, but lets talk about.
There is the philosophy that says, why pay someone when they can/should volunteer first.
In our church, I am the only paid person, I get a percentage of the tithe (the church board, not me sets this amount) as we grow in our budget then I will add personel, but they will be part time, as I am. Now when our budget grows much larger then we will move into a full time type of situation. But with healthcare, employee costs until we are about a 250,000 a year budget then we won't have that luxury.
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