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Old 05-31-2008, 06:45 PM
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STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs!

I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Song

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I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too
That would weird me out totally. Thank God for the blood!!! I hope we never get too sophisticated to sing about it.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:52 PM
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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:


1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.


3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.


I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing


what says you??/
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:57 PM
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I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too
Even my Baptiscostal mega exUPC lib church makes a point to talk about how we do still sing about the blood and the importance of the blood of Jesus so I am very surprised to see a UPC church take this tact.

I do think it helps to explain the lyrics of these songs if you see visitors who might have no church background.

I also think it makes sense to not sing old songs whose meaning is no longer relevent like "Jesus on the mainline". 98% of people today don't have a clue about old time telephone exchanges and what a mainline is. The common thought of a mainline today has to do with heroin consumption!
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:01 PM
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Even my Baptiscostal mega exUPC lib church makes a point to talk about how we do still sing about the blood and the importance of the blood of Jesus so I am very surprised to see a UPC church take this tact.

I do think it helps to explain the lyrics of these songs if you see visitors who might have no church background.

I also think it makes sense to not sing old songs whose meaning is no longer relevent like "Jesus on the mainline". 98% of people today don't have a clue about old time telephone exchanges and what a mainline is. The common thought of a mainline today has to do with heroin consumption!
Me thinks that some of our young ministers who are going to these Rick warran joel Osteen and Crystal cathedral are messing their heads up

The church service is a believer's meeting. winning souls is to be done in the community
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Me thinks that some of our young ministers who are going to these Rick warran joel Osteen and Crystal cathedral are messing their heads up

The church service is a believer's meeting. winning souls is to be done in the community
Or you could have the fundamental facts wrong as you have done before!!!!
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Or you could have the fundamental facts wrong as you have done before!!!!


NOPE absolutley not - I know the situation very well.
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I recently talked to a leader in another church who was upset over the pastor's decision. The pastor met with the Min. of Music , musicians and praise singers and told them there would be No more songs about the Blood!

His reasoning was that it scares today's visitors who have no church background.


What do you think about this ? I think this would upset me too


I am a little leery of the "you gotta shockamoo" crowd, but on this issue I am hardcore. The message of the cross and forgiveness through the blood of Jesus is THE message of the church... ALL else matters little in comparison.
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I am a little leery of the "you gotta shockamoo" crowd, but on this issue I am hardcore. The message of the cross and forgiveness through the blood of Jesus is THE message of the church... ALL else matters little in comparison.
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