STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by StMark

You are saying the cross no longer convicts??

now I would concur that hell no longer scares anyone

when our church sings songs about the blood, especially when we reach back to the old ones, they are always effective. I am frankly tired of us trying to lower the bar to appease sinners who have little or no knowledge of God. why should we gage our services strictly according to their standard?

I agree!

[Esther]

I wouldn't be surprised if skeltons come out of the closet in the future.

[Sam]

[QUOTE=cneasttx;479194]

Originally Posted by StMark

Didn't Andrae Crouch write that song? I love that song. I was just singing it when I went to get a cup of coffee.

Isn't Andrae Crouch trinitarian and therefore unsaved?
Should Apostolic people sing songs written by sinners?

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Esther

I agree!

I also agree. But the obvious conclusions of how to do that will not be liked by many folks.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Sam

I remember a woman telling me that her son was "traumatized" by seeing a depiction of Jesus on the cross at a church. He was pretty upset to think that someone was actually nailed to a cross.

Think we ought to take the cross out of all songs, references, and sermons?

We all should be upset when we think of someone being nailed to a cross. But we should also be thankful for a Savior that would be nailed to a tree and shed his blood for us to be saved.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by rrford

As a rule such songs and messages do not move people the way they used to. I travel extensively and am amazed at the seeming calloused disinterest in such topics when they are preached. I am not saying there is never a response. Just a general malaise that seems to be slipping in upon the church at large.

The cross should always convict. But let us not forget that at the actual Calvary the majority of folks mocked, ridiculed and gambled while the blood flowed. Only a few were actually moved.

Yea, I remember when Hell fire or the rapture was preached, people would run to the alter. now, people yawn while you talk about those things.
I wonder made people so hardened. maybe the movies? I'm not sure.

I think that's why XUPC churches and non denom. churches like warran and Osteen are preaching the Doc Phil 12 step program type sermons.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by rrford

I also agree. But the obvious conclusions of how to do that will not be liked by many folks.

what is it in your estimation?

[StMark]

[QUOTE=Sam;479202]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Isn't Andrae Crouch trinitarian and therefore unsaved?
Should Apostolic people sing songs written by sinners?

now sam, what made you go off on that tangent ???

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Esther

I wouldn't be surprised if skeltons come out of the closet in the future.

what are you talking about ???

[Cindy]

[QUOTE=Sam;479202]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

Isn't Andrae Crouch trinitarian and therefore unsaved?
Should Apostolic people sing songs written by sinners?

I don't know if he is or not, but I am certain the annointing of God was on him when he wrote that song.
I also don't think he was a sinner.