STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs! - Page 9

CC1 · #81 05-31-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

I mean a pulpit that returns to preaching about sin, hell, eternity, the Rapture. A strong pulpit does so with compassion, commitment and passion. The feel good messages are leaving the church passionless.

One of Dan Scott's reocurring themes this year has been that people must find transformation at church.

If they are just coming to hear good music, drink coffee in the cafe, hear sermons on positive thinking, then they might as well spend Sunday at the mall.

Encryptus · #82 05-31-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

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This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:

1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.

3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.

I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing

what says you??/

Sounds like he graduated from Lakewood School of Music.

Scott Hutchinson · #83 05-31-2008, 10:13 PM

Yes church shouldn't be all about feeling good it's really good to get under conviction ,and yes people should getting ready and staying ready to meet The Lord.

rrford · #84 05-31-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

One of Dan Scott's reocurring themes this year has been that people must find transformation at church.

If they are just coming to hear good music, drink coffee in the cafe, hear sermons on positive thinking, then they might as well spend Sunday at the mall.

Sadly too many treat church as some kind of spiritual shopping mall. They only want a "specialty store" that fits within their economy of what comprises a walk with God. In other words, they are defining what God should be telling them and giving them instead of simply coming to the marketplace of the Lord for whatever He has for that day.

Michael The Disciple · #85 05-31-2008, 10:48 PM

It is absurd to say Hillsong has nothing to do with the Cross. I prefer their music to almost anything I have heard in an Apostolic Church.

No cross? Take the challenge of listening to this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiy3_KRKNaQ

Someone is passing along lies it would seem if they say Hillsong does not sing about the cross.

RandyWayne · #86 05-31-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Sadly too many treat church as some kind of spiritual shopping mall. They only want a "specialty store" that fits within their economy of what comprises a walk with God. In other words, they are defining what God should be telling them and giving them instead of simply coming to the marketplace of the Lord for whatever He has for that day.

So you saw that episode of King of the Hill as well? LOL

Michael The Disciple · #87 05-31-2008, 11:08 PM

Lies that Hillsong has nothing to do with the blood of Jesus and his cross will do nothing to help the one who makes them up.

Hillsong And The Blood:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wej1jHtiH-M

rrford · #88 05-31-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

So you saw that episode of King of the Hill as well? LOL

Actually, no. Was it similar?

Michael The Disciple · #89 05-31-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by StMark

~ ~ Continued ~ ~

This Pastor went on to say that they were not allowed to perform the following:

1. From now on he only wanted "hill song" style. No gospel

2. They could not sing anymore slow songs for the worship service. only upbeat.

3. Absolutley NO More Hymns could be sung.

I'm not making this up. we came to the conclusion he probably went to one of those mega church growth seminars and came home and decided he would impliment their ways of doing things.

Needless to say, he has a lot of upset leaders as a result. I think some pastors are blaming the wrong things for the reasons for not growing

what says you??/

So this makes it seem Hillsong does not sing about the cross and the blood of Jesus. Now Mark you may not be aware that what you posted is not true. Now you know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4CC...eature=related

RandyWayne · #90 06-01-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Actually, no. Was it similar?

I would post the video but it looks like YouTube pulled it. They were looking for a new church and Peggy was trying to convince Hank to attend a new mega-church and listing all their programs and benefits. Hank goes "Mmmmm.... It sounds no different than going to the mall and thinking about Jesus" -to paraphrase.