STUNNING! UPC pastors says" NO more Blood Songs! - Page 13

stmatthew · #**121** 06-01-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico

St Matt, do you believe the style of music actually makes a difference in the truth contained in any song?

I think that the style can become a stumbling block to the message contained in the music. I think there are some styles (some Christian Rock) that are full of spirits that are not God, and can produce something in the hearer other than a heart to worship our Saviour.

Rico · #**122** 06-01-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

A gospel of Gore!!!!

He may have invented the internet and global warming, but Al Gore had nothing to with what we are talking about!

Rico · #**123** 06-01-2008, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I think that the style can become a stumbling block to the message contained in the music. I think there are some styles (some Christian Rock) that are full of spirits that are not God, and can produce something in the hearer other than a heart to worship our Saviour.

I believed that pre-conceived notions play the biggest role in people's decisions on what is and what isn't anointed.

Case in point: I play the guitar. I could play a song in church and have people come up to me and tell me how they love that song because it's anointed, etc., etc. I could play the same exact song, but click the distortion button on my amp, and the same people would complain that it was a devilish and carnal song.

TRFrance · #**124** 06-01-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I think that the style can become a stumbling block to the message contained in the music. I think there are some styles (some Christian Rock) that are full of spirits that are not God, and can produce something in the hearer other than a heart to worship our Saviour.

St Matt...how can a style of music contain spirits?
Please explain that to me.

Keep in mind that other styles of music have been condemned in the past as "the devil's music", only to become accepted over time in Christian circles.

For example , Jazz was preached against as the devil's music in the early 1900's. Now there's Christian Jazz, and hardly anyone blinks an eye at that. It's now widely accepted as simply another musical form, once that can be used to glorify God.

There's Christian salsa, Christian reggae, Christian soca, Christian rock, and other musical styles that have been used to glorify God across a variety of cultures.

What scripture would one use to say that certain musical styles are inherently ungodly?

Michael Phelps · #**125** 06-01-2008, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance

St Matt...how can a style of music contain spirits?
Please explain that to me.

Keep in mind that other styles of music have been condemned in the past as "the devil's music", only to become accepted over time in Christian circles.

For example , Jazz was preached against as the devil's music in the early 1900's. Now there's Christian Jazz, and hardly anyone blinks an eye at that. It's now widely accepted as simply another musical form, once that can be used to glorify God.

There's Christian salsa, Christian reggae, Christian salsa, Christian rock, and other musical styles that have been used to glorify God across a variety of cultures.

What scripture would one use to say that certain musical styles are inherently ungodly?

Excellent question, TR. I've often wondered this, and when I was younger and asked, the only response I got was "it's the beat".

Well, there was little difference in the "beat" of most secular songs and the "beat" in our style of Pentecostal worship. So, I was a tad confused.

And, my confusion was exacerbated when I heard guys like Steve TImmons do his seminars on rock and roll, and the entire content of his message had to with the lyrics. And the back masking..........

StMark · #**126** 06-01-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam

A slaughterhouse religion!!!

A gospel of Gore!!!!

Blood, guts, and violence!!!!

This reminded me of a church I visited a few years about in North San francisco. The woman that did the opening Prayer said " DEAR PARENT" !!!
I was like WHAAAAAAT!!!!! So I asked someone later about it and they told me that they didn't believe in a "Sexist God"

.

Sam · #**127** 06-01-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance

St Matt...how can a style of music contain spirits?
Please explain that to me.

Keep in mind that other styles of music have been condemned in the past as "the devil's music", only to become accepted over time in Christian circles.

For example , Jazz was preached against as the devil's music in the early 1900's. Now there's Christian Jazz, and hardly anyone blinks an eye at that. It's now widely accepted as simply another musical form, once that can be used to glorify God.

There's Christian salsa, Christian reggae, Christian salsa, Christian rock, and other musical styles that have been used to glorify God across a variety of cultures.

What scripture would one use to say that certain musical styles are inherently ungodly?

I've even heard Christian Rap. It's not my favorite but could be used by God to reach and to encourage some.

P.S. What is the abbreviation for Christian Rap?
Would it be C-Rap?

Rico · #**128** 06-01-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRFrance

St Matt...how can a style of music contain spirits?
Please explain that to me.

Keep in mind that other styles of music have been condemned in the past as "the devil's music", only to become accepted over time in Christian circles.

For example , Jazz was preached against as the devil's music in the early 1900's. Now there's Christian Jazz, and hardly anyone blinks an eye at that. It's now widely accepted as simply another musical form, once that can be used to glorify God.

There's Christian salsa, Christian reggae, Christian salsa, Christian rock, and other musical styles that have been used to glorify God across a variety of cultures.

What scripture would one use to say that certain musical styles are inherently ungodly?

Ya done hit the nail right on the head. Walk into a Puerto Rican apostolic church and you are going to hear songs sung with a Puerto Rican beat. It sure ain't gonna be countryfied, gospelized, rockified, or any of that. The music will be Ricanized (which, by the way, can sometimes sound very tribalish).

CC1 · #**129** 06-01-2008, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StMark

This reminded me of a church I visited a few years about in North San francisco. The woman that did the opening Prayer said " DEAR PARENT" !!!
I was like WHAAAAAAT!!!!! So I asked someone later about it and they told me that they didn't believe in a "Sexist God"

.

A few years ago while they were in Los Angeles my wife and daughter were invited to go to church with a friend there.

They went and at first it seemed like a typical charismatic type service as a praise and worship song started.

However every place in the song about the Lord where you would say "he" the female song leader and the congregation would sing "She".

My wife and daughter were shocked and couldnt' wait to get out of there.

Hoovie · #**130** 06-01-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1

A few years ago while they were in Los Angeles my wife and daughter were invited to go to church with a friend there.

They went and at first it seemed like a typical charismatic type service as a praise and worship song started.

However every place in the song about the Lord where you would say "he" the female song leader and the congregation would sing "She".

My wife and daughter were shocked and couldnt' wait to get out of there.

So there are idiots in this world... even in California!