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06-02-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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If it weren't for the women...
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..... many men would have nothing to preach about?
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06-02-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Would you even recognize a Jezebel in your church?
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! Would she stand out or blend in. 
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06-02-2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Depending on how you define "Jezebel", probably not. If you define a "Jezebel" as a harlot who seduces and conquers, there may be several and no one would know other then the men she slept with. If on the other hand she is defined as many in church do, as someone with makeup, then I would think it would be rather easy for obvious reasons.
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And therein lies the problem RW, a few on here assume that very thing any time holiness is brought up, that it is about outward holiness or Pentecostal outward standards. Sad and pitiful. Whereas a few are more than ready to accept mockery of people's belief's and call it humor. It's not funny from either side. But I forgot if it's painful it's humorous according to you.
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06-02-2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
If holiness was truly understood, we would not need to have people teach us what holiness dress is. What is needed more in churches today is a submission to conviction, a discerning of the Spirit concerning what is modest and what is not.
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Agreed, but always remember Bro Bill that there are people out there that have higher convictions and no one can be saved in their churches. I got family in a ULTRA CON church. If I mentioned the pastor there would be people on here that know the man, not UPC anymore. They do not allow anything, but bad attitudes it seems. I heard the aunt relay a store about a women showing up at church wearing jewelry. The aunt said something to the affect of it is not ok to wear that hear and made her leave. My wifes grandfather went started to go back to that church and the pastor told him if he wanted to come to that church he had to shave or he better not return. That is hard core.
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06-02-2008, 04:06 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
My suggestion to some of you would be......
Read it BEFORE you make judgmental statements regarding what the author was presenting! 
I recently saw this Herald.... I didn't thoroughly read every article, but I skimmed enough to get the basis....
I think some of you are jumping to conclusions!
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06-02-2008, 04:09 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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I think I already threw mine away.
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06-02-2008, 04:11 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
My suggestion to some of you would be......
Read it BEFORE you make judgmental statements regarding what the author was presenting! 
I recently saw this Herald.... I didn't thoroughly read every article, but I skimmed enough to get the basis....
I think some of you are jumping to conclusions!
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Agreed. Wish some of the articles were accessible online
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06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
Again, I read the articles and found them quite balanced.
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06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
I posted one of the articles on AFF.
The one I posted was by a person who is a librarian and English teacher. He quoted some old writings that spoke of baptismal regeneration and forgiveness through water baptism. Usually Oneness folks put these writings down because of their "Roman Catholic" leaning.
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06-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
I think the church needs more Holiness, but what we do not need is more rules and regulations. If Holiness makes you seperate by your dress then do it, but be very aware that what God might ask you to do does not mean God will ask me and vicaversa. Holiness unto the Lord is the greatest seperation point we have from the world. Our Holiness(inward stuff) is what the seperation point should be, but in this movement Holiness(outward stuff) has made us seperate from each other. In the words of Larry the Cable Guy, "that there ain't right."
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