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Old 06-02-2008, 08:25 PM
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I don't see anyone taking any pleasure in her personal heartache but she did set herself up in a precarious position with a false premis. I feel sorry for her and her girls but can't excuse her distorted doctrine.
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If her personal trouble is because of something she believes or teaches or wrote or did... we're all in trouble brother.

Bringing personal heartache up on a forum about someones life.. is just plain uncharitable and therefore not Christlike in my opinion.

Have you read her book Raven?
Have you read her book CC!?
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I don't see anyone taking any pleasure in her personal heartache but she did set herself up in a precarious position with a false premis. I feel sorry for her and her girls but can't excuse her distorted doctrine.
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There is no excuse that anyone can make for a doctrine the gives hair superanatural powers, makes it a source of God's glory and attaches angelic protection to it ...

None.

It's either denounced or you tacitly are endorsing false doctrine.
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Have you read her book CC1?

Yes. I have her book and I have looked at her children's books also.

Her acceptance and promotion within the UPC is the most discouraging thing I have seen in that movement for decades.

Pastors and leaders have sold out and embraced heresey just because it supports the uncut hair doctrine and gives women reasons (false ones) to embrace having uncut hair.

Her leaps in logic are beyond understanding. It is a poorly written book that many supporters of the uncut hair doctrine don't embrace because of its gross error.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:29 PM
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If her personal trouble is because of something she believes or teaches or wrote or did... we're all in trouble brother.

Bringing personal heartache up on a forum about someones life.. is just plain uncharitable and therefore not Christlike in my opinion.

Have you read her book Raven?
Have you read her book CC!?
Here is the difference. We don't proclaim that by having uncut hair we are given magical powers to protect ourselves and our families from moral failure. She did through examples she gave in the book.


I full well know that any of us are subject to either failure outselves if we don't keep the Lord on the throne of our lives or failure of loved ones if they don't do the same.
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If you can speak of someone's heartache and not feel the least bit sorry for it... than I shall leave it be, for you and the Lord to discuss.

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Here is the difference. We don't proclaim that by having uncut hair we are given magical powers to protect ourselves and our families from moral failure. She did through examples she gave in the book.


I full well know that any of us are subject to either failure outselves if we don't keep the Lord on the throne of our lives or failure of loved ones if they don't do the same.
This is where she put herself in the precarious situation that Raven speaks of ...

She even gave testimonies ... of women who lost their husbands and linked it to their lack of Holiness ...

Hence opening the door to this type of scrutiny.
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If you can speak of someone's heartache and not feel the least bit sorry for it... than I shall leave it be, for you and the Lord to discuss.

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I am constantly amazed that there is no rightous indignation at the heresey this woman espouses at womans conferences all over the UPC.

Instead any mention of her is rebuked as just being mean to some poor lil ole sweet woman.

She may very well be a sweet woman who loves the Lord with all of her heart but her doctrines should be given proper scunity before being promoted and that has not happened.

Plus she needs to just be thankful that she has not been arrested by the fashion police for wearing those giant feathers for adornment!
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I am constantly amazed that there is no rightous indignation at the heresey this woman espouses at womans conferences all over the UPC.

Instead any mention of her is rebuked as just being mean to some poor lil ole sweet woman.

She may very well be a sweet woman who loves the Lord with all of her heart but her doctrines should be given proper scunity before being promoted and that has not happened.
Every other wind of false doctrine is lambasted ... but this one remains untouchable because it's homegrown.
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If her personal trouble is because of something she believes or teaches or wrote or did... we're all in trouble brother.

Bringing personal heartache up on a forum about someones life.. is just plain uncharitable and therefore not Christlike in my opinion.

Have you read her book Raven?
Have you read her book CC!?
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Yes, I read the book. [Twice] I would never just take someone else's "review" of a book.
I very rarely say anything negative on this forum and I don't, here, personally attack RR.
But I must say that the doctrine she espouses in her book is very dangerous and extremely erroneous. I am also troubled that it was sold through the Publishing House thus giving it "official sanction". If she still holds to this belief I pray that the Spirit of Truth washes her eyes that she might see. I only hope for her good!
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Balanced? Was an article published by the Herald with the point of view that women aren't mandated by Scripture to wear long hair and dresses but to maintain their feminity while attired modestly for their culture?

Or by balanced do you mean that some of the articles were about outward standards and some about the heart?
Oh I am sure you could read it and critique every author, but as someone who did not have an agenda when reading it I was thinking "balance" rather than "mandates".

This balance is also found in, UPCI official, Ken Gurley's statement to the Chronicle.

The Herald does have some very good articles, and you do yourself a disservice to block them all simply because of a prior bias with the Herald being the "official" UPCI organ.
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