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06-02-2008, 08:46 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Every other wind of false doctrine is lambasted ... but this one remains untouchable because it's homegrown.
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A couple of years ago I was shocked when I saw her entire lineup featured on the POA White Steeple Bookstore website.
They were heavily promoting her books including the children's books.
Many people who truly believe the uncut hair doctrine object to her teaching because it is so offbase it discredits that doctrine rather than strengthening it. I would have thought that the leadership at POA would have been in that group.
I just don't think her books have had much serious scrunity within the UPC because of her pedigree she wsa just promoted left and right.
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06-02-2008, 08:56 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by CC1
I just don't think her books have had much serious scrunity within the UPC because of her pedigree she wsa just promoted left and right.
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A parallel to that:
James Kilgore didn't realize it was the guy from Kansas who was one of the ramrodders of the 1992 Affirmation Statement.
He said: "Had I known that I would not have come out for it because he preaches the truth in a way that I don't want to be associated with."
Hard to believe that such a momentous resolution and he did no more research on it than that.
Urshan and the others knew if they could get Kilgore to speak for it, it would pass.
James Kilgore was and is an innocent and naive man in a lot of ways ... not really "street smart" when it comes to political brawling.
This Ruth Rieder thing is another where no one really objectively examines the ridiculousness of the doctrine if the gal has a pedigree.
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06-02-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
But Dan's love attends a UPC church in California.
Dan's church is in Houston.
Not that I am saying he does have any at church, but just wanted to clarify.
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So are we correct in saying then that UPC churches in California are as liberal and CHARISMATIC as Dan's church in Texas???

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Jax
I have never visited Pastor Hunt's church in California so I have no personal knowledge of their "dress code". I do know he is a great man and years ago was Jonathan Suber's youth pastor. I believe he also preached at the AWCF world conference a couple months ago.
The church where Dan is associate pastor is independent and while many on this forum would probably believe it to be leaning to the liberal side, Dan started Spanish services there a couple months ago and most attending that service are fairly conservative in appearance.
Any more details would probably best come from Dan himself since he did visit Pastor Hunt's church while in California.
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06-02-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
Tim
Good to see you posting a little more often.
You have been missed hermano.
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06-02-2008, 09:06 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
Cindy and Brian.
Thank you both for your kind comment.
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06-02-2008, 09:08 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by James Griffin
Jax
I have never visited Pastor Hunt's church in California so I have no personal knowledge of their "dress code". I do know he is a great man and years ago was Jonathan Suber's youth pastor. I believe he also preached at the AWCF world conference a couple months ago.
The church where Dan is associate pastor is independent and while many on this forum would probably believe it to be leaning to the liberal side, Dan started Spanish services there a couple months ago and most attending that service are fairly conservative in appearance.
Any more details would probably best come from Dan himself since he did visit Pastor Hunt's church while in California.
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Oh boy ... how do I live that one down!!!
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06-02-2008, 09:09 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by CC1
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Sometimes things happen for a reason and I am inclined to think that is the case here. I hope eventually some good comes from all of it.
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I do not agree with the uncut hair theory proposed by her book.
Nor do I believe it gives "special" protective power as proposed by her book.
I also do not agree with the "magic hair" as presented in some churches, in an issue of the Pentecostal Herald, and in at least one UPC district publication.
But, what happened to the lady we are referencing might not be God trying to show her something. It could be an attack by the enemy. It could be a real trial of her faith, sorta like a preacher who is very strong on preaching healing and then one of his family members dies.
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06-02-2008, 09:11 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by Sam
I do not agree with the uncut hair theory proposed by her book.
Nor do I believe it gives "special" protective power as proposed by her book.
I also do not agree with the "magic hair" as presented in some churches, in an issue of the Pentecostal Herald, and in at least one UPC district publication.
But, what happened to the lady we are referencing might not be God trying to show her something. It could be an attack by the enemy. It could be a real trial of her faith, sorta like a preacher who is very strong on preaching healing and then one of his family members dies.
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Excellent post, Sam. So, true! I've seen that happen!!!
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06-02-2008, 09:13 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Originally Posted by Sam
I do not agree with the uncut hair theory proposed by her book.
Nor do I believe it gives "special" protective power as proposed by her book.
I also do not agree with the "magic hair" as presented in some churches, in an issue of the Pentecostal Herald, and in at least one UPC district publication.
But, what happened to the lady we are referencing might not be God trying to show her something. It could be an attack by the enemy. It could be a real trial of her faith, sorta like a preacher who is very strong on preaching healing and then one of his family members dies.
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Thank you, Sam.....
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06-02-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: The UPC is going to more emphasis on holiness
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Plus she needs to just be thankful that she has not been arrested by the fashion police for wearing those giant feathers for adornment!
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Maybe it's the Indian in her.
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