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Old 06-03-2008, 02:55 PM
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Yes. The message gets lost in the delivery.
Right. Lost in translation. Sometimes we have to pick it out as it goes along.
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Not really challenged. But I will be very pointed.

I see some as holding standards and those that are against them failing God miserably and so neither person was the example of what God really wanted.

I hope you understand what I am saying.
So you are disappointed.
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I don't understand this statement.......could you please clarify?
Well, Michael, it reads like what it means. Read it again. That is what really upsets me.
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So you are disappointed.
Yes, for both sides.
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Re: Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church?

That statement said - - she sees people that hold standards and then people that don't hold them disappointing God.
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That statement said - - she sees people that hold standards and then people that don't hold them disappointing God.
Yes. I don't mean each group as a whole, but individuals.
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Yes.
Could that be because it has NOTHING to do with standards, but all about holiness?
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Could that be because it has NOTHING to do with standards, but all about holiness?
Of course. Therefore, the argument of being for or against then becomes and has become ridiculous.
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Well, Michael, it reads like what it means. Read it again. That is what really upsets me.
When I originally read your statement, it read like this to me: "I see some holding standards, and those who are against them failing God miserably........" My first inclination was that you were saying some were holding standards, but those who were against them were failing God miserably........

Now, I see what you're saying, and I agree with you.
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Of course. Therefore, the argument of being for or against then becomes and has become ridiculous.
Well, we agree on this!

But, to many, the argument "for or against standards" is anything but ridiculous.

The standards are the issue, not the holiness of the heart, which is the TRUE issue.
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