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Old 06-06-2008, 04:33 PM
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Re: NBC article about the new Florida Revival

It's not the only spirit which waits for an open door. To take your principle to the fullest degree, there is no one who qualifies to be a preacher because any person could fall into relapse.

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Agreed.. however that Spirit waits for an open door.... he is someone who has some major flesh weaknesses...
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Old 06-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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I am no way endorsing him or Florida, but this happened when he was 15 and still a unbeliever. Big difference between that and older man who claims conversion doing the behavior.
And his reason from what I can gather is that he was just doing what was done to him. Go figure, that is the number one reason (excuse) given by most abusers. I believe God can change and deliver anyone. He may claim that the enemy is just trying to discredit him, but he probably thought no one would ever know since juvenile records are supposed to be sealed.

And they usually are unless the conclusion of your case is after you become of age. Then certain things may become public record.
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Old 06-06-2008, 05:10 PM
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A couple years ago Lee Stoneking said at Landmark in Stockton Ca, that there are angels who look exactly like us. When I questioned that statement, you would think I questioned the infallibility of the pope. I never heard such a statement about angels. I wanted clarification. I wonder what the angel did to be punished to look like me. I'd be questioning God on that assignment.
Well consider this from Lee Stoneking..."All the trinitarians in the world can't move the devil"...the spirit of this man is very disturbing...extremely angry and hostile to others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQjhF...eature=related
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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Re: NBC article about the new Florida Revival

have any of you read the stuff on Wikipedia about this guy? pretty far out there
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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Driving back from the store tonight God dealt with my heart on this. Were the sins I forgave you any more horrible than this man's? Is my power any less? The answer is of course no. You have not seen Me, but you have seen My power. Who are you to judge if this man's power is from Me? This is not the place you come to for spiritual guidance, I have chosen the man for you to go to for spiritual guidance and advice in your Pastor. If God can forgive my sins, He is able to forgive anyone's sins. Lord help me to remember where you brought me from, to where I now know You in all your glory and power.
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:50 PM
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Not everyone is comfortable with this expression of Christianity, including some Protestant theologians. R. Douglas Geivett, a professor at the conservative, evangelical Talbot School of Theology, is deeply skeptical of the "Florida outpouring" and does not believe Bentley’s claims of supernatural healing are consistent with Christian doctrine

"I don’t think it fits neatly into any branch of Christianity," said Geivett. "Mr. Bentley’s worldview appears to be a mixture of New Age notions, an obsession with the paranormal, and an untutored grasp of Christian theology."
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:55 PM
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I have some real reservations about this revival, but I don't know anything for sure - just a gut feeling. I don't care about the way that Todd looks; it's just all that weird angel stuff. One prophet said that the angel Emma shows up to heal, who is the same angel that came and healed in the Kansas City revival. I'm not saying it can't happen, but there seems to be a LOT of focus on angels - almost like angel worship. That kind of stuff really freaks me out.

However, I do believe people are going and many are being healed by God, just because He honors true faith.

I hate to say anything more, because I haven't been to witness it for myself.
Sounds like when New Agers claim a spirit named xxx comes into them to give ancient wisdom...also sounds like RCC saint idolotry
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Re: NBC article about the new Florida Revival

Says he will be in Malibu in October...You going Mark?
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:07 AM
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"So when I need a financial breakthrough I don't just pray and ask God for my financial breakthrough. I go into intercession and become a partner with the angels by petitioning the Father for the angels that are assigned to getting me money: "Father, give me the angels in heaven right now that are assigned to get me money and wealth. And let those angels be released on my behalf. Let them go into the four corners of the earth and gather me money."

Jane, ANGEL of The PROPHETICNow let me talk about an angelic experience with Emma. Twice Bob Jones asked me about this angel that was in Kansas City in 1980: "Todd, have you ever seen the angel by the name of Emma?" He asked me as if he expected that this angel was appearing to me. Surprised, I said, "Bob, who is Emma?" He told me that Emma was the angel that helped birth and start the whole prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. She was a mothering-type angel that helped nurture the prophetic as it broke out. Within a few weeks of Bob asking me about Emma, I was in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord said, "Here's Emma." I'm not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost like Kathryn Kuhlman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young - about 22 years old - but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life. She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began putting gold dust on people... Within three weeks of that visitation, the church had given me the biggest offering I had ever received to that point in my ministry. Thousands of dollars! Thousands!... During this visitation the pastor's wife (it was an AOG church) got totally whacked by the Holy Ghost - she began running around barking like a dog or squawking like a chicken as a powerful prophetic spirit came on her. Also, as this prophetic anointing came on her, she started getting phone numbers of complete strangers and calling them up on the telephone and prophesying over them... Then angels started showing up in the church. [12]
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Re: NBC article about the new Florida Revival

More recently, Todd stated that in one of his "Third Heaven" trips he literally visited the small cabin where the apostle Paul lives in Heaven. Paul told him that he wrote the book of Hebrews with the personal help of Abraham the Patriarch: “The authorship isn’t clear because it was Abraham and I; Abraham shared the content with me.” Todd's 'Third Heaven' tales are full of such astonishing claims.
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