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Old 06-07-2008, 01:36 PM
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Re: Disturbing Incident~Spiritual Immaturity~

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Like Mark pointed out, God takes care of problems like this in His own way and in His own time. I have seen people who disrespected men and women of God, and ended up in dire straits because they were unrepentant and rebellious.
But is this because they disrespected "men and women of God" as opposed to those Pentecostals consider to be NOT men and women of God? Or is it because they are simply unrepented

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I'm not talking about situations where an angry preacher threatened the wrath of God because someone dared disagree with him--I'm talking about ACTUAL cases where people have been reduced to nothing, financially, physically, and otherwise, because they treated Christians, (elders or not) with disrespect and worse.
Amen. Thank you. But still is it because of the disrespect or because of the lingering repentance and rebellion

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That's nothing to rejoice over, btw, but it is true that you WILL reap what you sow, God sees to it that His laws are fulfilled. Repentance and God's grace is the only way to overturn that "law."
This is true, however it might be damaging for an offended party to wait around for something to happen. We have to move on in a lot of cases and that might mean finding another church in some

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A very wise elder of mine once told me to never seek revenge, because if we seek our own revenge, God doesn't have to (or won't) take up our cause. I don't know how true that is, or scriptural, but I do think we are better off if we leave it to God to sort out.
Amen. I think God looks at many of our "situations" as petty. He wants us to move on to perfection.

In my experience I had a situation with a pastor. He was a great man of God and I loved him dearly. But I had something happen between us. It was really hard on me and I held a grudge for a long time. But I always knew this was wrong, even if I was wronged and he was in the wrong. I had to get over it.

I was praying and praying. One day, as I was heading toward an alter call I looked over at him and I just quickly thought to the Lord "Am I wrong or is he wrong!?!" and the Lord spoke to me clear as day and said very simply "Forgive him".

God did not justify myself or my pastor. What was important was forgiveness and to move on. I got the total victory that day. Praise God. The truth is nobody is perfect and people we love are going to do or say things that hurt us and vice versa. Unless it is something repetitive the best thing in situations like that is to get the victory and stay there and help that church. If you leave without getting the victory it will be like a spirit that follows you everywhere you go.
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