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Old 03-22-2007, 08:33 AM
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One person, similar to the one Felicity came in contact with at work came into our church. After approx. 18 months of attending service she approached me about helping her pick out clothes that were more feminine and modest. I had the privilege of seeing her transformed by the power of God in her life. She rarely missed a prayer meeting or a service...she wanted the change as God spoke it into her life.

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If someone were living in sin and wanted to wallow there then that would be "disgusting" to me. But if someone doesn't have understanding and is surrounded by an environment that teaches them wronglyly or encourages the behaviour then I would not be repulsed by them. I think the repulsion is more an emotional reaction that a spiritual one. Similar to some people being repulsed by extremely obese people.

You know that fat people only have to "try harder" and not eat so much ... it's a sin to be gluttonous..

I don't have much of a problem with fat people but when they have the mentality that they cannot loose weight or that they would rather stay fat than to go hungry then it really irritates me. I understand if you have medical problem and it is hard or if you have sincerely tried and you struggle but to simply never try or choose not to - that to me is WRONG!!!
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If someone were living in sin and wanted to wallow there then that would be "disgusting" to me. But if someone doesn't have understanding and is surrounded by an environment that teaches them wronglyly or encourages the behaviour then I would not be repulsed by them. I think the repulsion is more an emotional reaction that a spiritual one. Similar to some people being repulsed by extremely obese people.

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You know that fat people only have to "try harder" and not eat so much ... it's a sin to be gluttonous..
I disagree! This is not always so. There are hereditary reasons as well as medical ones for obesity.

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I disagree! This is not always so. There are hereditary reasons as well as medical ones for obesity.

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I meant that TIC... sinc people were saying the "masculine" lady just had to try harder.
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I disagree! This is not always so. There are hereditary reasons as well as medical ones for obesity.

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My SIL is overweight and her doctor told her that there really is no such thing as having a medical reason for being overweight - it just means that you have to work much harder at it and it is discouraging. She is overweight mainly due to medical issues and he said that if she would go on a strict 1200 -1500 calorie diet and exercise daily she could loose it but that it would take a while and be hard.
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I meant that TIC... sinc people were saying the "masculine" lady just had to try harder.
O - O.K. but the first half of your statement I believe to be true. It is an emotional reaction rather than a spiritual one.

Thanks for clarifying!

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My SIL is overweight and her doctor told her that there really is no such thing as having a medical reason for being overweight - it just means that you have to work much harder at it and it is discouraging. She is overweight mainly due to medical issues and he said that if she would go on a strict 1200 -1500 calorie diet and exercise daily she could loose it but that it would take a while and be hard.
I have hypothyroidism...it runs in my family...and I can't eat carbs and have to be able to eat less than a 1000 calorie diet to get rid of weight - it is so discouraging...I was always so skinny until my thyroid shut down about 7 years ago...now it is a constant battle.

The only time I have been successful in dropping the weight was when I was happily in love...for whatever reason.

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I meant that TIC... sinc people were saying the "masculine" lady just had to try harder.
Barring physical and mental issues that would completely prevent a person from even wanting to "try harder", or being able to make any significant difference in their appearance, I stand by and support my obnoxious and sarcastic posts.

Hey, even Rhoni is in support of just putting on clothes that are more "feminine and modest"...apparently that's all it takes to do the trick.

I always think it's hilarious in any conversations regarding certain sinful behaviors, homosexuality and effeminancy in particular, that abhorrence for the sin and its support staff is equated with the nonsensical idea that anyone who abhors said sin also abhors and mistreats said sinner.

I don't believe Felicity stated that she was rude or mean to the woman in her store. Did she? I don't believe I stated that I would walk up to a masculine-looking woman and yank the hairs out of her nose. Did I?

I'm smart enough to know that many problems can't be solved with an Ambush Makeover...but since we were discussing women who look and act masculine, those sound like things that can be corrected with a change in appearance and/or behavior.

Obviously outward confusion is often an indicator of equally disturbing inward turmoil, and that can't be cured with a pretty dress and lip gloss.
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Barring physical and mental issues that would completely prevent a person from even wanting to "try harder", or being able to make any significant difference in their appearance, I stand by and support my obnoxious and sarcastic posts.

Hey, even Rhoni is in support of just putting on clothes that are more "feminine and modest"...apparently that's all it takes to do the trick.
Not all it takes but it is a good start! Rhoni believes in feminine apparel and modesty. That's why I wear frilly blouses with my pants!

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Barring physical and mental issues that would completely prevent a person from even wanting to "try harder", or being able to make any significant difference in their appearance, I stand by and support my obnoxious and sarcastic posts.

Hey, even Rhoni is in support of just putting on clothes that are more "feminine and modest"...apparently that's all it takes to do the trick.

I always think it's hilarious in any conversations regarding certain sinful behaviors, homosexuality and effeminancy in particular, that abhorrence for the sin and its support staff is equated with the nonsensical idea that anyone who abhors said sin also abhors and mistreats said sinner.

I don't believe Felicity stated that she was rude or mean to the woman in her store. Did she? I don't believe I stated that I would walk up to a masculine-looking woman and yank the hairs out of her nose. Did I?

I'm smart enough to know that many problems can't be solved with an Ambush Makeover...but since we were discussing women who look and act masculine, those sound like things that can be corrected with a change in appearance and/or behavior.

Obviously outward confusion is often an indicator of equally disturbing inward turmoil, and that can't be cured with a pretty dress and lip gloss.

I think we agree...
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