What would it take for you to get back into the UPC???

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by CC1

But what if they were only leaving to become AMF???????

I've been a one-day member of a church before...

[CC1]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Not sure I care for a man preaching to me every Sunday via CD. I personally believe what one location may need is not always what another needs. One location may need a good teaching, and at the same time the other may need a "hoe down". But I guess they could stop the tape.

I agree. I love Eddie and Sherri but I am not on board with this concept. If there was some sort of shortage of men who desire to preach the gospel and this was the only way to get it somewhere I would be all for it.

However I think individiual citie, communities, etc have particular needs. A church or community may be going through something that needs to be addressed specificially to them.

A particular church body may have needs at a specific point in time that need to be ministered to over time in sermons that another church body might not.

Only a local pastor can really be on top of all that is happening in both his church and his community.

Churches seem to go through "seasons". I have seen this over and over again. One church may be in a season of prayer while another is in a season of revivial. One may be in a season of great blessing and rejoicing while another is dealing with sorrow or trials and tribulations.

I haven't left.

Still in the ark.

[Lost]

Season tickets to the Atlanta Braves?

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by CC1

I agree. I love Eddie and Sherri but I am not on board with this concept. If there was some sort of shortage of men who desire to preach the gospel and this was the only way to get it somewhere I would be all for it.

However I think individiual citie, communities, etc have particular needs. A church or community may be going through something that needs to be addressed specificially to them.

A particular church body may have needs at a specific point in time that need to be ministered to over time in sermons that another church body might not.

Only a local pastor can really be on top of all that is happening in both his church and his community.

Churches seem to go through "seasons". I have seen this over and over again. One church may be in a season of prayer while another is in a season of revivial. One may be in a season of great blessing and rejoicing while another is dealing with sorrow or trials and tribulations.

Well, I LOVE YOU TOO, CC1, but I still think this is a great way to do church. We want all of our churches to have the same direction, same vision, etc. This is a way to speak corporately to all of the campues at once, with one voice. Hey, it's working so far. I believe it will work far and wide.

CC1, you're just too stuck in your ultracon ways to accept newfangled ideas.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, I LOVE YOU TOO, CC1, but I still think this is a great way to do church. We want all of our churches to have the same direction, same vision, etc. This is a way to speak corporately to all of the campues at once, with one voice. Hey, it's working so far. I believe it will work far and wide.

CC1, you're just too stuck in your ultracon ways to accept newfangled ideas.

Can the services be piped into my home TV? That way I don't have to get dressed up on Sunday mornings! We could lay our hands on the TV, send you our tithes, and be done with it! J/K

I would have to agree with CC1 on the live video concept. I need a preacher that I can lift my left hand and show him my watch when he's getting long winded!

[South of I 90]

Originally Posted by CC1

I agree. I love Eddie and Sherri but I am not on board with this concept. If there was some sort of shortage of men who desire to preach the gospel and this was the only way to get it somewhere I would be all for it.

However I think individiual citie, communities, etc have particular needs. A church or community may be going through something that needs to be addressed specificially to them.

A particular church body may have needs at a specific point in time that need to be ministered to over time in sermons that another church body might not.

Only a local pastor can really be on top of all that is happening in both his church and his community.

Churches seem to go through "seasons". I have seen this over and over again. One church may be in a season of prayer while another is in a season of revivial. One may be in a season of great blessing and rejoicing while another is dealing with sorrow or trials and tribulations.

There are alot of churches that are starting to do this. And lot of them have been very successful in this format. Saddleback, Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Tx and North Point Community Church in the Atlanta area. Usually the only item that is "pipe in" is the message. Everything else in the worship service (music, invitation, offering, etc.) is autonomous to that particular location.

Each location has it's own support staff and pastors to meet that particular congregations needs.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by philjones

It would take a minor miracle since I am disqualified from membership in the UPCI by past mistakes. That said, I am praying for a minor miracle!

I thought you was UPC???

[LadyRev]

Not by birth, not by raising and not by force...I chose and continue to choose to be UPC minus a few attitudes and attributes that I won't go into.

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

What would it take for you to get back into the UPC?

For me it would take a paradim change in the culture brought on by a change in the attitudes and perceptions of the entire organization toward mandating and defining a corporate holiness.

It would take the church giving holiness back to the saints of the living God for me to get back to it.

What I said is not very easy to reconcile, it has roots going to China...

Drop condescending attitudes and ridiculous standards.