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06-10-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
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but WHY are so many against it now ???? I'm not getting
It but I want to understand
Is it me or what ???
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06-10-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
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Got any New Testament examples of "shouting"?
It is interesting that after the upper room on the Day of Pentecost there are zero references to anything that could have been construed as people being drunk (which is the basis on which Pentecostal shockamoo is based).
You would think that the church in the book of Acts or that the Epistles would have at least touched on "shouting" if that was going on. It certainly would have garnered some outside interest yet you don't see one single scripture where it is talked about.
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06-10-2008, 04:41 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by StMark
Are you against this ?
Has your church stopped allowing it ??
At one time did you believe in it but have changed
your views on it ?
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I don't know of any Pentecostals that disallows it, do you?
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06-10-2008, 04:42 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by CC1
Got any New Testament examples of "shouting"?
It is interesting that after the upper room on the Day of Pentecost there are zero references to anything that could have been construed as people being drunk (which is the basis on which Pentecostal shockamoo is based).
You would think that the church in the book of Acts or that the Epistles would have at least touched on "shouting" if that was going on. It certainly would have garnered some outside interest yet you don't see one single scripture where it is talked about.
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What? You don't shout because you cannot find a reference?
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06-10-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
I don't know of any Pentecostals that disallows it, do you?
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I have been told there are pockets of churches that consider it "wildfire" and don't allow it. That is rare in old time Oneness Pentecost though.
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06-10-2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
What? You don't shout because you cannot find a reference?
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I thnk 98% of it is purely Pentecostal tradition and culture. It is not in the Bible.
It is a learned behaviour from watching other people do it and being in an atmospehere where it is done and encouraged.
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06-10-2008, 04:44 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
well...deep subject for my shallow mind...ha...
the Bible teaches order...do whatever God is in...however those that pop gum and start jumping with the music...I doubt that God is in such stuff...Paul taught ORDER...move according to Godīs order...
I have seen people deeply moved by the spirit...once in a service I felt to lay my hands on brother and his leg grew...that was in order...
When things are in order GOD moves...out of order it is just a hayday...
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06-10-2008, 04:45 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by CC1
Got any New Testament examples of "shouting"?
It is interesting that after the upper room on the Day of Pentecost there are zero references to anything that could have been construed as people being drunk (which is the basis on which Pentecostal shockamoo is based).
You would think that the Epistles would have at least touched on "shouting" if that was going on. It certainly would have garnered some outside interest yet you don't see one single scripture where it is talked about.
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Acts 2:33 speaks of them hearing and SEEING!
Acts 3 the healed man LEAPS into the temple.
In Acts 8 GREAT JOY was evident in the city.
Also the Eunuch went his way rejoicing.
That's for starters.
Too be fair would a visitor to CC ever accuse y'all of being drunk??? Asleep maybe drunk NOT. 
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06-10-2008, 04:46 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
well...deep subject for m shallow mind...ha...
the Bible teaches order...do whatever God is in...however those that pop gum and start jumping with the music...I doubt that God is in such stuff...Paul taught ORDER...move according to Godīs order...
I have seen people deeply moved by the spirit...once in a service I felt to lay my hands on brother and his leg grew...that was in order...
When things are in order GOD moves...out of order it is just a hayday...
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I agree. I believe God can and does deeply affect ones emotions. However there is a difference in jumping and jiving to the music and the Holy Spirit moving in your heart and mind.
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06-10-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your ch
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Acts 2:33 speaks of them hearing and SEEING!
Acts 3 the healed man LEAPS into the temple.
In Acts 8 GREAT JOY was evident in the city.
Also the Eunuch went his way rejoicing.
That's for starters.
Too be fair would a visitor to CC ever accuse y'all of being drunk??? Asleep maybe drunk NOT.
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I think healed people rejoicing is natural and not to be confused with shouting as you see it in Pentecostal churches.
If you are honest you will have to admit there is no New Testament precedent for the "shouting" that goes on in Pentecostal churches.
Even the account of the upper room has no references to what Pentecostals do today.
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