Do u allow Running,Shouting,Dancing in your church - Page 7

mizpeh · #61 06-10-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Let me be clearer. Show me in the New Testament scripture where what is typical Pentecostal Shouting is spoken about as a part of the church, etc. You will not find it and yes I believe if it were an integral part of being a Christian it would be in the Bible.

Some CoC churches don't allow musical instruments in their worship because they are not found in the NT.

Mrs. LPW · #62 06-10-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Some CoC churches don't allow musical instruments in their worship because they are not found in the NT.

I was going to say this Mizpeh. I actually met and had quite a long series of converstions with a deacon of the CoC. He did not believe in using any musical instruments in a church gathering. As there was no NT for it.

So let's define Shockamoo, once more, just for clarification?
Does Shockamoo include; jumping, shouting, hand clapping, dancing?
If it does, than Shockamoo isn't a learned thing.

We have brand new converts in our church who never learned it. They do those things out of complete and honest Praise to a God that has given them new life.

rgcraig · #63 06-10-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

I was going to say this Mizpeh. I actually met and had quite a long series of converstions with a deacon of the CoC. He did not believe in using any musical instruments in a church gathering. As there was no NT for it.

So let's define Shockamoo, once more, just for clarification?
Does Shockamoo include; jumping, shouting, hand clapping, dancing?
If it does, than Shockamoo isn't a learned thing.

We have brand new converts in our church who never learned it. They do those things out of complete and honest Praise to a God that has given them new life.

Just to play the devil's advocate here - - - those new converts also act like that at a ballgame, know what I mean?

Maybe it's just a way to express joy, excitement, or enthusiasm?

Mrs. LPW · #64 06-10-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Just to play the devil's advocate here - - - those new converts also act like that at a ballgame, know what I mean?

Maybe it's just a way to express joy, excitement, or enthusiasm?

Yes, exactly. It's almost ingrained into us as human beings to respond with movement when we are happy, glad, thankful etc. Some of us cry... I tend to shed a lot of tears in church. Even when I'm jumping I'll be crying.
I personally don't see how we could out-law those things.

Some people just stand with their hands raised and tears streaming down their face... and others jump!

I firmly believe we were created emotional beings. So NT or OT, I don't see how God would have gone from Psalm 150 to inward reflection only.

scotty · #65 06-10-2008, 07:29 PM

Im still waiting on someone to show me that all mighty annointing that gives them God like arrogance to think they can look at one and place the judgement label on them that says "Of God" and "Not of God"...

If you believe your one of these annointed ones please send contact info. I have a bottle of "hell proof water" I wanna sell ya.

rgcraig · #66 06-10-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Yes, exactly. It's almost ingrained into us as human beings to respond with movement when we are happy, glad, thankful etc. Some of us cry... I tend to shed a lot of tears in church. Even when I'm jumping I'll be crying.
I personally don't see how we could out-law those things.

Some people just stand with their hands raised and tears streaming down their face... and others jump!

I firmly believe we were created emotional beings. So NT or OT, I don't see how God would have gone from Psalm 150 to inward reflection only.

I think when we get in trouble is when we expect everyone to react the same.

Some are more reserved, but just because they are doesn't mean they aren't worshiping God just as fervently as someone that feels the need to jump around.

To require everyone to "do" something together is forcing some to do something they don't feel comfortable doing and in turn they aren't truly worshiping freely.

Mrs. LPW · #67 06-10-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scotty

Im still waiting on someone to show me that all mighty annointing that gives them God like arrogance to think they can look at one and place the judgement label on them that says "Of God" and "Not of God"...

If you believe your one of these annointed ones please send contact info. I have a bottle of "hell proof water" I wanna sell ya.

Mrs. LPW · #68 06-10-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I think when we get in trouble is when we expect everyone to react the same.

Some are more reserved, but just because they are doesn't mean they aren't worshiping God just as fervently as someone that feels the need to jump around.

To require everyone to "do" something together is forcing some to do something they don't feel comfortable doing and in turn they aren't truly worshiping freely.

Quite insane to do that!

I can't imagine outlawing fervent worship, anymore than I can imagine forcing everyone to shockamoo.

I do think that the "all OP churches judge you by how high you jump" is a horribly broadbrushed idea. It's simply NOT that way in any of the churches I have frequented.

mizpeh · #69 06-10-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Some people just stand with their hands raised and tears streaming down their face... and others jump!

That would be me at the altar this past Sunday! I could not stop crying! The more I felt the presence of the Spirit, the more I cried...happy tears.

rgcraig · #70 06-10-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW

Quite insane to do that!

I can't imagine outlawing fervent worship, anymore than I can imagine forcing everyone to shockamoo.

I do think that the "all OP churches judge you by how high you jump" is a horribly broadbrushed idea. It's simply NOT that way in any of the churches I have frequented.

Count yourself priviledged.