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03-22-2007, 05:27 PM
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Biblical Church Goverment?
Ok I'll ask this question.
What is the correct way for a NT.assembly to be set up?
In order for a church to qualify as a NT. assembly what form of church goverment should it have?
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03-22-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Ok I'll ask this question.
What is the correct way for a NT.assembly to be set up?
In order for a church to qualify as a NT. assembly what form of church goverment should it have?
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Scott ... you seem very much INTO THIS SUBJECT .... about church gov't ... elders ... assemblies ... you obviously have some thoughts on this ... why don't you share them with us .....
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03-22-2007, 05:37 PM
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I do have some views as much of Western Christianity is modeled after The RCC due to post-Reformation thought
Alot of it stems from a system of rank rather a rather a Priesthood of believers.There are those who ordained to oversight postions or callings but dominance and sheperding are vastly different.
But I did want to hear from others ,and yes this a subject I want to study out some more.
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03-22-2007, 05:42 PM
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As I have stated before when threads were started about this subject on FCF and then NFCF, I believe there is no comprehensive New Testament plan for church government and I think God did that on purpose.
Church government should serve the Gospel in whatever is the best possible way for the culture and time period the church is in.
A church under persecution in a communist country like China may work better with a much different church government than in a free Western democracy.
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03-22-2007, 08:32 PM
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CC1 I know that the church is culturally diverse, but don't you think we can look in the book of Acts and see a working model for Christian assemblies?
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03-22-2007, 09:12 PM
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CC1 I know that the church is culturally diverse, but don't you think we can look in the book of Acts and see a working model for Christian assemblies?
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Not really. If it were something we were supposed to emulate I think there would have been clear instructions to do so.
I think people get caught up in trying to copy / emulate things that God never intended for them to and that he doesn't give a hoot about.
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03-22-2007, 09:16 PM
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Not really. If it were something we were supposed to emulate I think there would have been clear instructions to do so.
I think people get caught up in trying to copy / emulate things that God never intended for them to and that he doesn't give a hoot about.
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Well of all the differing forms of church govt., like Episcopal or Congreagational and Presbyterian surely something is more Biblical than another?
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03-23-2007, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Ok I'll ask this question.
What is the correct way for a NT.assembly to be set up?
In order for a church to qualify as a NT. assembly what form of church goverment should it have?
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The way Paul set it up: elders run the church (the bishop or pastor is just an overseeing elder).
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03-23-2007, 08:50 AM
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The way Paul set it up: elders run the church (the bishop or pastor is just an overseeing elder).
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Is there a difference or separation between administrative and Spiritual oversight? i.e. spiritual government vs. administrative gonvernment?
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03-23-2007, 09:09 AM
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Quote:
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CC1 I know that the church is culturally diverse, but don't you think we can look in the book of Acts and see a working model for Christian assemblies?
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Why is it determined that in the five fold ministry; Pastor is above the rest?
Is there any Proof that One is higher than another in rank?
Apostles in the begining I see higher, simply because of the fact they walked and talked with Jesus exept Paul, But he was knocked off his horse by Jesus and spoken too personally.
But the Apostles died... and time moved on thousands of years later.
Apostles are no longer writting letters. And some how these letters became the Bible.
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