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06-14-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Is fear always an evil spirit ...?
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No, not always.
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06-14-2008, 09:12 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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So if it is genetic ... and it can be a sin ... can one be born a sinner?
Or this another discussion?
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Like many things in life, the subject and causes of anxiety remains a gray area. Could anxiety be fear based and a sin? Yes. Could anxiety be related to a physical ailment and a sin? No.
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06-14-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Or by an evil spirit of fear and doubt trying to cause unbelief to fester in our minds.
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No argument here. I just think that we cannot base an opinion on anxiety sufferers just on our own life experiences.
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Isaiah 53:5: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed."(KJV)
"God sends no one away empty except those who are full of themselves." Dwight L. Moody
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06-14-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Like many things in life, the subject and causes of anxiety remains a gray area. Could anxiety be fear based and a sin? Yes. Could anxiety be related to a physical ailment and a sin? No.
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Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed upon thee for he trustest in thee.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-14-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
No, I don't think anxiety is a sin. Anxiety is a normal human response to things beyond our control. Our teenage son goes out, stays out later than normal... we get anxious. Normal reaction to a situation beyond our control. Being anxious isn't a sin... but how we react to that anxiety could very well be sin. Phil. 4:6 gives the proper response to anxiety. Prayer, Supplication, Thanksgiving. These are the Christians response to life's little (and not so little) anxieties. Everyone worries, and becomes anxious about something. If God somehow removed anxiety from us, then there would be no need for Peter to have written, "Casting all your cares upon Him, for He careth for you". With every anxious moment we encounter, God has provided the means for us to deal with that anxiety... its found right there in Phil 4:6.
I just went through several months of an anxiety crisis. Am I doing the right thing? Is her meds right? Doctors, hospitals, surgery, radiation, chemo. Endure months of that then come back and tell me whether anxiety is a sin or not. No, being concerned, being anxiuous, even being a little panicky, isn't a sin. Thats normal during stressful times and a person who doesn't get anxious at times just isn't normal in my opinion. Our anxieties ended when Lola and I sat down and prayerfully made the decision that ultimately determined her fate. It was a life and death situation to the fullest extent. I read 2Ch 16:12 to Lola And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease [was] exceeding [great]: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. It was then that we responded appropriately to our anxieties. We decided to trust God with life rather than the doctors. And we trusted Him until she drew her last breath. And, I still trust Him... because trusting Him is the proper and only way to deal with anxiety. Anxiety is a normal human emotion... like happiness or anger. If you ain't got it...then you just ain't normal.
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06-14-2008, 09:24 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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No argument here. I just think that we cannot base an opinion on anxiety sufferers just on our own life experiences.
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The battlefield is in our minds. Fearful thoughts trigger anxious feelings.
God is merciful. He takes pity on our weaknesses and helps us to overcome. Whatever the cause of the anxiety, as Christians, I don't believe we have to live in a state of constant anxiety or be controlled by anxiety.
I read a book about T W Barnes in which he was afflicted by an evil spirit of depression for six months. Interesting stuff.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-14-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Perfect love casts out all fear. I'm sure there are fears that folks have that will be overcome as they mature in the Spirit. Shouldn't our fears(anxiety disorders) be relieved and overcome when we cast all our cares on Him, knowing He cares for us?
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It doesn't say the bolded part above. Read it again.
" Perfect love casts out FEAR"...THAT is what it says. It never states that ALL fear will be cast out...
Just FYI.
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06-14-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Originally Posted by whollyHis
It doesn't say the bolded part above. Read it again.
"Perfect love casts out FEAR"...THAT is what it says. It never states that ALL fear will be cast out...
Just FYI.
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I wonder though...what is the fear related to? Is it to someone living in fear that he might not be saved?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-14-2008, 10:54 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.
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06-14-2008, 10:55 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Is THIS a Sin?? ... Can it Ever Be?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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