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Originally Posted by tbpew
FERD,
I am willing to discuss uncomfortable things because I see them as major snares in the life of the saints of God.
There is no wisdom in coming into any group of folks in the year 2008 and start saying that taking any kind of pills is evidence that you are of the devil and you and your witchcraft supporters are hell-bound captives.
Is the alternative, just say nothing?
Folks who are admonished by scripture to understand that our bodies are the habitation of God must confront the impact of ingesting sythethic chemicals compounds DEMANDS continual vigilance involving the position these chemicals are placing them.
Is the alternative learn to embrace a viewpoint that God is the provider of all these new sythethic chemicals that we are instructed to ingest, not only today, but for each and every day for the rest of our lives. FERD, DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
Or should we just not talk about anything uncomfortable because people we love may be presently in the midst of such activity.
FERD, I do not believe God gets ANY GLORY from a person living the rest of their lives injecting insulin into their bloodstream. God's mercy is still a part of their lives but their present actions and dependancies are NOT AUTHORED BY HIM.
Are these people in sin because of unbelief? I have no basis or ability to make such a conclusion. BUT a chronic, perpetual, symptom managment approach is NOT GOD's remedy....it is man's medicine, 39 stripes were not supplied to the back of our Lord so that we could have chemicals available to dump into your blood to mange symptoms.
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It is certainly an interesting subject, and you are right. it is very uncomfortable for people to talk about some aspects here.
there are these 2 things you mention and a third as well.... LIFESTYLE.
Medicine and continual symptom managment, and healing from God arent the only 2 things that belong in the discussion. more and more of our sicknesses are a result of terrible lifestyle habits. That has to be part of the topic too.
Tbpew, I have at different time struggled with why God has not healed me. Why I have had to walk (really limp) down this road. Why me? is always the question isnt it?
You speak of faith and such. My brother, during my trials I have prayed for many and seen God heal them....DURING my trials with my back. I have faith. I know what God can do. I have SEEN what God can do.
There is more to this faith thing and healing thing than simply looking at people and telling them you arent healed because you dont have faith or have sin in your life. I dont understand the ways of God but I do understand his Grace. It teaches me every day to lean on him.
As for medicine, I firmly beleive that a child of God ought to do what ever they can to be healthy. If that requires taking medicine then they should. period.
I cannot find it in my head anywhere for a man to not take his medicine, and die waiting on God to heal him and leave his family unprotected. That in my opinion just might be a sin that cannot be repented for. God Forbid!
At the same time, someone living on pills because they dont have the will power to step up and take care of their bodies and change their lifestyle and live a healthy life is likely sinning as well. Tuff words I suppose. It certainly ought to be discussed.
There is a balance that we have to find. Temperance is the word that comes to mind.