God Does Not Use The "works Of The Devil"

[ReformedDave]

ESV says it the same way- 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

I think the KJV translators got it wrong.

Not to be sarcastic in the least, but on what basis is this a mistranslation?

[ReformedDave]

Here's Josh. 11:19-20--- 19 There was not a city that made peace with the people of Israel except the Hivites, the inhabitants of Gibeon. They took them all in battle. 20 For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be devoted to destruction and should receive no mercy but be destroyed, just as the Lord commanded Moses.

[ReformedDave]

Deut. 2:30-34- 30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day. 31 And the Lord said to me, ‘Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land over to you. Begin to take possession, that you may occupy his land.’ 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Jahaz. 33 And the Lord our God gave him over to us, and we defeated him and his sons and all his people. 34 And we captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Not to be sarcastic in the least, but on what basis is this a mistranslation?

On the basis that it disagrees with Lk 11:12.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Deut. 2:30-34- 30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the Lord your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day. 31 And the Lord said to me, ‘Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land over to you. Begin to take possession, that you may occupy his land.’ 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Jahaz. 33 And the Lord our God gave him over to us, and we defeated him and his sons and all his people. 34 And we captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors.

You're off topic. This has nothing to do with God's parenting skills.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

On the basis that it disagrees with Lk 11:12.

How do you know it's not the Luke passage that is mis-translated?

Could it be possible that there are aspects of God's character that are beyond our comprehension as we have nothing in our experience to compare them with?

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

You're off topic. This has nothing to do with God's parenting skills.

It shows God causing calamity for His ultimate plan. In fact he caused that king to sin.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

It shows God causing calamity for His ultimate plan. In fact he caused that king to sin.

James 1:13 "...neither tempteth He any man." It's obvious that anyone can candy shop any translation and cherry pick a verse to say anything they want it to say. They can't all be right.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

James 1:13 "...neither tempteth He any man." It's obvious that anyone can candy shop any translation and cherry pick a verse to say anything they want it to say. They can't all be right.

Can you reconcile the two?